[aur-general] Systemd service files

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Limao Luo

27 Nov 2012 27 Nov '12

4:19 a.m.

In general, should .install files enable systemd service files on startup by default (even if some custom config may or may not be required)? Are there any other special considerations when deciding? [1] provided some info about systemd scripts, but I couldn't find anything as it relates to PKGBUILDs. [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd

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Patrick Burroughs (Celti)

27 Nov 27 Nov

4:25 a.m.

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Limao Luo wrote:

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In general, should .install files enable systemd service files on startup by default (even if some custom config may or may not be required)? Are there any other special considerations when deciding? [1] provided some info about systemd scripts, but I couldn't find anything as it relates to PKGBUILDs.

[1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd

As far as I know, the general rule is that install scripts should never enable, disable, start, stop, or restart things, only apply needed configuration that can't be applied from within the package (such as adding users and groups). ~Celti

Stefan J. Betz

8:25 a.m.

Am 2012-11-26 23:19:08 -0500, Limao Luo schrieb:

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In general, should .install files enable systemd service files on startup by default (even if some custom config may or may not be required)? Are there any other special considerations when deciding? [1] provided some info about systemd scripts, but I couldn't find anything as it relates to PKGBUILDs.

Never enable any service on install ;-) Greetings Stefan Betz -- URL : http://blog.stefan-betz.net GPG : E188 933B BC00 723A 9DB0 0CD3 1398 E68B 6F33 567E XMPP: stefan@jabber.stefan-betz.net

Martti Kühne

9:13 p.m.

On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Stefan J. Betz wrote:

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Never enable any service on install ;-)

+1 Please keep arch passive. No automated configs, no automated breakage I'll have to search for. Thank you. Cheers mar77i

Oon-Ee Ng

10:26 p.m.

On 28 Nov 2012 05:13, "Martti Kühne" wrote:

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On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Stefan J. Betz

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Never enable any service on install ;-)

+1 Please keep arch passive. No automated configs, no automated breakage I'll have to search for. Thank you.

Cheers mar77i

Yes, we should not have the privilege of breaking our systems taken away from us.

Xyne

11:37 p.m.

Oon-Ee Ng wrote:

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On 28 Nov 2012 05:13, "Martti Kühne" wrote:

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On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Stefan J. Betz

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Never enable any service on install ;-)

+1 Please keep arch passive. No automated configs, no automated breakage I'll have to search for. Thank you.

Cheers mar77i

Yes, we should not have the privilege of breaking our systems taken away from us.

Unless you're Allan. Then automated breakage is not only a privilege but an obligation. Bonus points for subtlety.

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Limao Luo
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Patrick Burroughs (Celti)
Stefan J. Betz
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