[aur-general] A slew of deprecated packages (none of which are mine)
Hi TUs and... other people(?), So I got this nice list of unneeded packages in AUR that should be removed. None of these are mine so I don't know how justified my suggestions are - at least they've not been updated for some time and there is a replacement for most of them. First off let's stare "xorg-server-xephyr": http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15438 The option "--enable-xephyr" is included in the official [extra]'s xorg-server so this package is not needed. This I'm not too sure about, "xorg-server-antidesktop": http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23750 <http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23750>I guess it's purpose is to start up with a blank screen.. but that should be the case these days anyway(?) xorg-server-catalyst: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26728 There's "xorg-server-1.7-catalyst-maximize-fix", "xorg-server-1.8-catalyst-maximize-fix" and "xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix" in AUR so this one is not needed. xorg-server-gentoo: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15089 Currently there are only these two tiny patches in the Gentoo's X server which are to 'disable ACPI' and 'prefer nouveau over nv'. At least it's a lot less than 'Joekey' (the maintainer) is happy to update for. songbird-bin: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/songbird-bin/songbird-bin/PKGBUILD, songbird-stable-bin: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33050 I had to laugh when I saw this. These two PKGBUILDs are virtually _identical_. Why an earth would we need both? Actually the "songbird" package's PKGBUILD should be replaced with either one of those (it currently holds a non-working version of the songbird-svn package... for whatever reason) and then the two others removed (I mean _I think_ that's how it should be done). All that songbird-nightly* stuff should be removed too. In AUR there should be only the old stable Songbird (songbird), a SVN version (songbird-svn), a nightly version (songbird-nightly) and a bleeding edge one (being alpha/beta/rc) (songbird-beta). But only "songbird-svn" exists and works. "Songbird-auto-nightly" and "songbird-auto-beta" should just be moved to as "songbird-nightly" and "songbird-beta" (I take it this can only happen by telling the maintainer, ilikenwf, to upload those packages with the simplified name and then the former ones could be removed) and songbird(-stable)-bin "changed" to "songbird". It'd be _nice_ to also have the "xorg-server*-catalyst-maximize-fix" packages changed to just "xorg-server*-catalyst" but that's probably not worth it taken the "conflicts=()" changes with other PKGBUILDs, the removals of the formerly named package and other stuff like that... Thanks for your time, 'Det'
Excerpts from fasdfsa fsadfsaf's message of 2010-08-24 12:45:30 +0200: [...]
This I'm not too sure about, "xorg-server-antidesktop": http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23750 <http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23750>I guess it's purpose is to start up with a blank screen.. but that should be the case these days anyway(?)
I think the purpose was to provide a HAL-free Xorg, which is now the default. No idea whether there's something else it does differently. [...] -- Philipp -- "Wir stehen selbst enttäuscht und sehn betroffen / Den Vorhang zu und alle Fragen offen." Bertolt Brecht, Der gute Mensch von Sezuan
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:54 AM, Philipp Überbacher <hollunder@lavabit.com>wrote:
Excerpts from fasdfsa fsadfsaf's message of 2010-08-24 12:45:30 +0200:
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This I'm not too sure about, "xorg-server-antidesktop": http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23750 <http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23750>I guess it's purpose is to start up with a blank screen.. but that should be the case these days anyway(?)
I think the purpose was to provide a HAL-free Xorg, which is now the default. No idea whether there's something else it does differently.
[...] -- Philipp
-- "Wir stehen selbst enttäuscht und sehn betroffen / Den Vorhang zu und alle Fragen offen." Bertolt Brecht, Der gute Mensch von Sezuan
If I remember correctly, Songbird is not going to release anymore updates for the Linux version. That is if they don't change their minds.
On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:15 PM, Nathan O <ndowens.aur@gmail.com> wrote:
If I remember correctly, Songbird is not going to release anymore updates for the Linux version. That is if they don't change their minds.
From what I have read in their FAQs and other discussions, they don't plan on ever supporting Linux again.
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Brad Fanella <bradfanella@archlinux.us>wrote:
On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:15 PM, Nathan O <ndowens.aur@gmail.com> wrote:
If I remember correctly, Songbird is not going to release anymore updates for the Linux version. That is if they don't change their minds.
From what I have read in their FAQs and other discussions, they don't plan on ever supporting Linux again.
They are, in my opinion, going to lose some user base
On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Nathan O <ndowens.aur@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Brad Fanella <bradfanella@archlinux.us
wrote:
On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:15 PM, Nathan O <ndowens.aur@gmail.com> wrote:
If I remember correctly, Songbird is not going to release anymore updates for the Linux version. That is if they don't change their minds.
From what I have read in their FAQs and other discussions, they don't plan on ever supporting Linux again.
They are, in my opinion, going to lose some user base
Not a very large one though. I think with the small market share Linux has, it's more trouble than it's worth for them.
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Brad Fanella <bradfanella@archlinux.us>wrote:
On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Nathan O <ndowens.aur@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Brad Fanella <bradfanella@archlinux.us
wrote:
On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:15 PM, Nathan O <ndowens.aur@gmail.com> wrote:
If I remember correctly, Songbird is not going to release anymore
updates for the Linux version. That is if they don't change their minds.
From what I have read in their FAQs and other discussions, they don't plan on ever supporting Linux again.
They are, in my opinion, going to lose some user base
Not a very large one though. I think with the small market share Linux has, it's more trouble than it's worth for them.
It maybe, though it would be nice to have something like that around I believe.
On 08/24/2010 06:31 PM, Nathan O wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Brad Fanella <bradfanella@archlinux.us>wrote:
On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Nathan O <ndowens.aur@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Brad Fanella <bradfanella@archlinux.us
wrote:
On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:15 PM, Nathan O <ndowens.aur@gmail.com> wrote:
If I remember correctly, Songbird is not going to release anymore
updates for the Linux version. That is if they don't change their minds.
From what I have read in their FAQs and other discussions, they don't plan on ever supporting Linux again.
They are, in my opinion, going to lose some user base
Not a very large one though. I think with the small market share Linux has, it's more trouble than it's worth for them.
It maybe, though it would be nice to have something like that around I believe. There is always Nightingale, the fork of Songbird which runs on Linux.
Smartboy
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Smartboy <smartboyathome@gmail.com> wrote:
On 08/24/2010 06:31 PM, Nathan O wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Brad Fanella <bradfanella@archlinux.us wrote:
On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Nathan O <ndowens.aur@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Brad Fanella <
bradfanella@archlinux.us
wrote:
On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:15 PM, Nathan O <ndowens.aur@gmail.com> wrote:
If I remember correctly, Songbird is not going to release anymore
updates for the Linux version. That is if they don't change their minds.
From what I have read in their FAQs and other discussions, they don't plan on ever supporting Linux again.
They are, in my opinion, going to lose some user base
Not a very large one though. I think with the small market share Linux has, it's more trouble than it's worth for them.
It maybe, though it would be nice to have something like that around I believe. There is always Nightingale, the fork of Songbird which runs on Linux.
Smartboy
Oh yeah I forgot about that project.
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Nathan O <ndowens.aur@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh yeah I forgot about that project.
I'll make a PKGBUILD (as it doesn't seem to be in the AUR yet) as soon as their site (http://getnightingale.com/) stops spitting out drupal errors. :-P
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Brad Fanella <bradfanella@archlinux.us>wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Nathan O <ndowens.aur@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh yeah I forgot about that project.
I'll make a PKGBUILD (as it doesn't seem to be in the AUR yet) as soon as their site (http://getnightingale.com/) stops spitting out drupal errors. :-P
That will be great, I may use it sometime when I need something similar to songbird
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