Hello. My AUR account (Hanabishi) was suspended. There is a mistake happened. You maybe thought that I am abusing requests, but my actions are actually agreed with TU. I am just helping to find duplicate packages (already present in official repos), which are violating AUR submission guidelines.
On Wed, Mar 01, 2023 at 02:58:30AM +0500, irecca.kun@gmail.com wrote:
Hello. My AUR account (Hanabishi) was suspended. There is a mistake happened. You maybe thought that I am abusing requests, but my actions are actually agreed with TU. I am just helping to find duplicate packages (already present in official repos), which are violating AUR submission guidelines.
Nobody asked you to hunt the AUR for packages you think are breaking the rules. Several of the packages you are reporting have several votes and usages beyond calling them "-light" because you removed a dependency didn't like. Now we are stuck with a bunch of requests and confused maintainers because of your self-righteous action. -- Morten Linderud PGP: 9C02FF419FECBE16
Le 28/02/2023 à 22:58, irecca.kun@gmail.com a écrit :
Hello. Hi, I sent you an email regarding this. My AUR account (Hanabishi) was suspended. There is a mistake happened. You maybe thought that I am abusing requests, but my actions are actually agreed with TU. I am just helping to find duplicate packages (already present in official repos), which are violating AUR submission guidelines.
I said you could fill in a deletion request if you're willing to help marking packages that you think should be deleted, I surely didn't expect you to go on a misson with that much requests in a so short period of time with a vague predefined message like that. I get that you were trying to help, but this isn't helpful actually and that has been inevitably assimilated to spam. Please report packages properly and avoid spamming like that in the future. -- Regards, Robin Candau
On 2/28/23 22:07, Morten Linderud wrote:
Nobody asked you to hunt the AUR for packages you think are breaking the rules. Several of the packages you are reporting have several votes and usages beyond calling them "-light" because you removed a dependency didn't like.
Now we are stuck with a bunch of requests and confused maintainers because of your self-righteous action.
On 2/28/23 22:11, Robin Candau wrote:
I said you could fill in a deletion request if you're willing to help marking packages that you think should be deleted, I surely didn't expect you to go on a misson with that much requests in a so short period of time with a vague predefined message like that.
I get that you were trying to help, but this isn't helpful actually and that has been inevitably assimilated to spam. Please report packages properly and avoid spamming like that in the future.
Well, I purged like 17 my own packages in sake of your rules. What exactly determines usefulness in this case? When someone "have several votes and usages" - they are allowed to do it? Or this is just my packages were "disliked"? I thought rules are the same for everybody. And you purge *all* of such packages or *none* of them. As Robin Candau said: "it does not provides *extra* features or patches that would legitimate an exception to that strict rule". Just trying to comply with that *strict* rule. Or there are no rules and TUs actually do what they want? I was fairly sure it will turn out like that. It is easy to discriminate noname users. You delete my harmless packages for not complying with AUR standards, but can't push forward on a serious level. Even when someone spent time helping and filling requests. So yeah, there are something to think about. Good luck.
Am 28.02.23 um 23:51 schrieb irecca.kun@gmail.com:
Or there are no rules and TUs actually do what they want?
Simply put, yes. Actually the project is run by a club of people, called Arch-devs. It is their project, not yours. Although they admit new members, and work partially in public, they make the rules and interpret them. Or the TUs on behalf of the devs, pertaining to the community repo and AUR.
TU's aren't judges, as you said, but I definitely want some justice here.
While the project members made rules, these rules guide the inner workings of the project, and do not grant enforceable rights to outsiders. Run your own repo and be the ruler of your own little kingdom. :-) Also, you could have come here and asked for explanation and guidance, instead of acting childish. Just my 2¢. I am a user like you. BR
Hi all, If I might intervene, I have something to add. I'm not TU, but I maintain several packages in AUR. It's not too difficult. But the most challenging part of this task is dealing with user requests: if it's just an update request, it's more or less straightforward. But in all other cases, I find the most productive way for users to file a request for something AND mail me a description of what's going wrong. This way, I can discuss the issue and find (or decline to find) the best possible solution. So, as a package maintainer, I don't appreciate sending vague requests without a clear description of what's done wrong. Thank you for understanding and being ready to hear the POV of a mere mortal maintainer, Best wishes, Pasha Finkelshteyn Developer Advocate for Data Engineering JetBrains Pasha Finkelshteyn Developer Advocate for Data Engineering JetBrains asm0dey@jetbrains.com https://linktr.ee/asm0dey Find out more On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 2:03 PM Markus Schaaf <markuschaaf@gmail.com> wrote:
Am 28.02.23 um 23:51 schrieb irecca.kun@gmail.com:
Or there are no rules and TUs actually do what they want?
Simply put, yes. Actually the project is run by a club of people, called Arch-devs. It is their project, not yours. Although they admit new members, and work partially in public, they make the rules and interpret them. Or the TUs on behalf of the devs, pertaining to the community repo and AUR.
TU's aren't judges, as you said, but I definitely want some justice here.
While the project members made rules, these rules guide the inner workings of the project, and do not grant enforceable rights to outsiders. Run your own repo and be the ruler of your own little kingdom. :-)
Also, you could have come here and asked for explanation and guidance, instead of acting childish.
Just my 2¢. I am a user like you.
BR
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irecca.kun＠gmail.com
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Markus Schaaf
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Morten Linderud
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Pasha Finkelshtein
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Robin Candau