Re: [aur-general] removal proposal for Ranguvar
2010/12/4 <aur-general-request@archlinux.org>
Message: 8 Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 17:07:54 -0500 From: Loui Chang <louipc.ist@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [aur-general] removal proposal for Ranguvar To: "Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR)" <aur-general@archlinux.org> Message-ID: <20101204220754.GC32145@celine.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
On 12/04/2010 11:53 PM, Ray Rashif wrote:
On 5 December 2010 05:46, Loui Chang<louipc.ist@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat 04 Dec 2010 22:19 +0200, Ionu? B?ru wrote:
On 12/03/2010 12:06 AM, Ionu? B?ru wrote:
I'm waiting to see your replies and then act based on them.
i don't see this being discuss any further and all messages have been only in one direction.
i modified his account on aur to normal user. Ranguvar, i'm sorry for
On Sat 04 Dec 2010 23:59 +0200, Ionu? B?ru wrote: this
and when you'll have time again you should consider applying again.
Loui can you disable his account on sigurd? Andrea can you remove his privileges from bugtracker and forum?
You still need to create a voting proposal. Why doesn't anyone read the damned bylaws?
I myself thought there would be voting, but I just realised Ionut inferred that we needn't vote from the following:
"for which standard voting procedure deviates from the above."
above being the voting procedure and from my understanding what is the opposite of having a voting? NO voting.
we had this situation in the past and we didn't had any voting procedure. we just removed it and we continued our business.
with or without the vote, the result would be the same. And to be fair, we are investing too much time in the removal, even more that he invested in community.
Then don't waste any time on it. Leave it alone. But if you do want to remove a Trusted User you MUST follow the bylaws. Three days discussion and Five days of voting for removal due to inactivity. Read the bloody bylaws.
We cannot be at liberty to remove people without proper procedure.
Forgive me for speaking out of term here, but wouldn't it just be easier to amend the bylaws to get away of that ambiguity? Two people reading it, two different conclusions, sounds like a lawyer could make big money out of this ;-).
Hello everyone, I first must apologize. It is entirely my fault that I have been inactive as a TU. I'm something of an unorganized individual, and I never got around to picking up some packages and putting them in [community], making an account there, or even voting. I don't have an excuse besides that I do my best to maintain those packages which I have adopted, and I try to only adopt packages which I use myself, unless I have intimate knowledge with that software. The majority of the packages I owned before becoming a TU were ineligible for [community] inclusion (or at least I thought at the time they were) -- bin32-wine, ttf-ms-fonts-lic, dolphin-emu-svn{,-bin}, and firefox-pgo-* (dolphin I have given to another user who is more capable than I at maintaining that particular package, bin32-wine was replaced by [multilib], and ttf-ms-fonts-lic was removed in favor of ttf-ms-fonts). I also maintain a few packages on my local machine, but those are unsuitable even for the AUR (custom kernel/x264/ffmpeg/mplayer/chromium). I also completely agree that these circumstances would warrant removal. I do not expect to simply sit with that title and not do work beyond normal maintenance of AUR packages. I would like to ask, but am hesitant to do so, for a last chance. If you would prefer that I ready several packages for [community] inclusion beforehand, I can do that. Or if it is the collective belief of the other TUs that it would be prudent to remove me as a TU for inactivity and then leave it at that, either for a substantial time period or permanently, I will abide by that decision. Once more, I am embarrassed that I have not preformed my duties as agreed, and if kept as a TU would immediately work to become an active help, for I do still enjoy both using Arch and assisting its users, and I believe that I could change my behavior and become quite a bit more active as a TU. Sincerely, Devin Cofer (ranguvar)
On 12/05/2010 03:48 PM, Ranguvar wrote:
Hello everyone,
Hi,
I first must apologize. It is entirely my fault that I have been inactive as a TU. I'm something of an unorganized individual, and I never got around to picking up some packages and putting them in [community], making an account there, or even voting. I don't have an excuse besides that I do my best to maintain those packages which I have adopted, and I try to only adopt packages which I use myself, unless I have intimate knowledge with that software. The majority of the packages I owned before becoming a TU were ineligible for [community] inclusion (or at least I thought at the time they were) -- bin32-wine, ttf-ms-fonts-lic, dolphin-emu-svn{,-bin}, and firefox-pgo-* (dolphin I have given to another user who is more capable than I at maintaining that particular package, bin32-wine was replaced by [multilib], and ttf-ms-fonts-lic was removed in favor of ttf-ms-fonts). I also maintain a few packages on my local machine, but those are unsuitable even for the AUR (custom kernel/x264/ffmpeg/mplayer/chromium).
if after the voting procedure you are still a TU, you can start sending me all the information to get an account on the dev panel.
I also completely agree that these circumstances would warrant removal. I do not expect to simply sit with that title and not do work beyond normal maintenance of AUR packages.
I would like to ask, but am hesitant to do so, for a last chance. If you would prefer that I ready several packages for [community] inclusion beforehand, I can do that. Or if it is the collective belief of the other TUs that it would be prudent to remove me as a TU for inactivity and then leave it at that, either for a substantial time period or permanently, I will abide by that decision.
just want to remind everything that the same thing happened 6 months ago. http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2010-July/009608.html -- Ionuț
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Ionuț Bîru
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Ranguvar