Am Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:59:32 +0100 schrieb gadget3000 :

clickosquare (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=43425) - Dead project since 2002. No maintainer and only 7 votes.

Actually I'm not a TU and don't know this package, but I think as long as it works there's no need to remove it just because it's old and not developed anymore. If it's not developed anymore a maintainer is not necessary to be able to install it. Such a package could be removed if it doesn't work anymore or has security issues. Heiko

I don't think I flagged either package out of date but either way thanks for letting me know about old projects. I'm still a bit of a noob here :P I do have a question though. What if it's an old multiplayer only project? I nobody plays it, nobody will want to use it. Gadget3000 On 29 August 2011 11:31, Heiko Baums wrote:

Am Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:28:50 +0200 schrieb Heiko Baums :

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Am Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:59:32 +0100 schrieb gadget3000 :

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clickosquare (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=43425) - Dead project since 2002. No maintainer and only 7 votes.

Actually I'm not a TU and don't know this package, but I think as long as it works there's no need to remove it just because it's old and not developed anymore.

If it's not developed anymore a maintainer is not necessary to be able to install it.

Such a package could be removed if it doesn't work anymore or has security issues.

And, btw., there's no need to flag it as out-of-date, if there's no new upstream version. "Out-of-date" doesn't mean the package is old. "Out-of-date" means there's a newer upstream version available.

Heiko

One other thing. The votes are meant for having a package moved to [community] and not for having it kept in AUR. The minimum of required votes are 10 as far as I know. So a package with 7 votes is not that far away from that.

Ah, I thought it was 20 votes but with a bit of wiki searching that was apparently an old minimum. I usually quote the votes because "Votes are an indicator of package interest or usage." (Source: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Community#Minimum_Vote_Requirement). I guess the key word in that sentence is indicator! Do any pages of definitive rules/guidelines exist? Thanks, Gadget3000 On 29 August 2011 12:17, Heiko Baums wrote:

Am Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:59:06 +0100 schrieb gadget3000 :

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I don't think I flagged either package out of date but either way thanks for letting me know about old projects. I'm still a bit of a noob here :P

I don't know who has flagged this package as out-of-date, but it was. So I mentioned it.

This button is abused quite often. Unfortunately there are some people who regularly flag a package as out-of-date just because they think there are bugs in the PKGBUILD and they are just waiting for a new version of the PKGBUILD - so they misuse it as their personal bug tracker - or in this case because they probably think that a package is "too" old for their taste.

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I do have a question though. What if it's an old multiplayer only project? I nobody plays it, nobody will want to use it.

I guess, if the servers aren't accessible anymore then this game can be considered as unusable anymore. So I guess it won't work anymore except if there's also a single player mode.

One other thing. The votes are meant for having a package moved to [community] and not for having it kept in AUR. The minimum of required votes are 10 as far as I know. So a package with 7 votes is not that far away from that.

Heiko

Am Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:49:04 +0100 schrieb gadget3000 :

Ah, I thought it was 20 votes but with a bit of wiki searching that was apparently an old minimum. I usually quote the votes because "Votes are an indicator of package interest or usage."

Not necessarily. The votes don't need to mean so much. I think there are several people who install and use a package from AUR without caring about the votes. And there are a lot of not so well known packages. If a package is not well known it doesn't mean it's bad or not necessary or the like. On the other hand there have been packages which I had installed and didn't vote for for some reasons. Of course, there can be some very rare cases in which the votes can be an additional indicator for interest. But generally votes should only be seen as what they are meant for, for moving packages to [community]. Heiko