Re: [aur-general] aur-general Digest, Vol 70, Issue 13
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 20:36:17 +0300 From: Ionu? B?ru <ibiru@archlinux.org> Subject: Re: [aur-general] TUs adopting packages from the AUR To: "Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR)" <aur-general@archlinux.org> Message-ID: <4C66D411.7010405@archlinux.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
On 08/14/2010 08:22 PM, Xyne wrote:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 14:43:37 +0300 Ionu? B?ru wrote:
On 08/14/2010 02:38 PM, Stijn Segers wrote:
Guys,
When I saw this discussion about sage-mathematics I was just wondering what is customary when a TU wants to adopt packages that are not his and are maintained by someone in the AUR.
I had a couple of those (remmina-plugins and freerdp) and from one day to another my packages were 'gone' from AUR. Only after that some TU sent me a message that he had taken my packages. There was nothing in the AUR ML about moving it.
Is this how this is usually done? I know developers aren't great communicators, but it sure struck me as impolite, rude even.
Thanks
yes. this is how we handle it. eventually we have to do that since you or any other contributors can't commit to community and we want all our users to easy access their favorite applications.
Is that really how we're supposed to handle it?
In my opinion, a TU should contact the current maintainer in advance to discuss moving a package to [community]. Simply taking the package is indeed impolite, regardless of the number of votes.
if you read his email, you'll see that an email was sent.
if the current maintainer doesn't want to be moved, you think that is a democracy? :D
is not
I don't mind seeing packages moved into [community], much to the contrary. But as Xyne said, communication would be nice. If some TU were to ask me 'can I adopt this package and put it in [community]', why would I say no? Why would anyone, for that matter? :-) I'd just like to be noticed before, and not after. Of course it's not a democracy, but communication isn't a synonym of democracy ;-).
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Stijn Segers <gotleenucks@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't mind seeing packages moved into [community], much to the contrary. But as Xyne said, communication would be nice. If some TU were to ask me 'can I adopt this package and put it in [community]', why would I say no? Why would anyone, for that matter? :-)
What's the point of asking then? To waste everyone's time? : D
I'd just like to be noticed before, and not after. Of course it's not a democracy, but communication isn't a synonym of democracy ;-).
I think leaving a comment on the package's page before "stealing" it is enough. The maintainer should get notified via e-mail if he has enabled notifications for that package (which for new packages is enabled by default).
On Sun 15 Aug 2010 15:08 +0300, Evangelos Foutras wrote:
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Stijn Segers <gotleenucks@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't mind seeing packages moved into [community], much to the contrary. But as Xyne said, communication would be nice. If some TU were to ask me 'can I adopt this package and put it in [community]', why would I say no? Why would anyone, for that matter? :-)
What's the point of asking then? To waste everyone's time? : D
It's part of life really. People like to feel important and appreciated. Niceties are what grease the wheels of society. You may end up with a happier and more productive community if you can practice them within reason..
I'd just like to be noticed before, and not after. Of course it's not a democracy, but communication isn't a synonym of democracy ;-).
I think leaving a comment on the package's page before "stealing" it is enough. The maintainer should get notified via e-mail if he has enabled notifications for that package (which for new packages is enabled by default).
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Loui Chang <louipc.ist@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun 15 Aug 2010 15:08 +0300, Evangelos Foutras wrote:
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Stijn Segers <gotleenucks@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't mind seeing packages moved into [community], much to the contrary. But as Xyne said, communication would be nice. If some TU were to ask me 'can I adopt this package and put it in [community]', why would I say no? Why would anyone, for that matter? :-)
What's the point of asking then? To waste everyone's time? : D
It's part of life really. People like to feel important and appreciated. Niceties are what grease the wheels of society. You may end up with a happier and more productive community if you can practice them within reason..
I'd just like to be noticed before, and not after. Of course it's not a democracy, but communication isn't a synonym of democracy ;-).
I think leaving a comment on the package's page before "stealing" it is enough. The maintainer should get notified via e-mail if he has enabled notifications for that package (which for new packages is enabled by default).
We really want a happy community? <joke>then let's gell joints for everybody ! .. </joke> Now serious (it's obvious that a peaceful place to work will motivate you to work in), I try to write to the maintainer a little note, or comment, in fact if I am moving packages of one user in specific I say him "dude apply to be a TU" (it's happened to me twice). When I was a user the fact of the tu getting a package for me was an honour is was like, and that makes me happy, but we are all different, so .. I remember people who dislike the idea of "why you will take MY package" those users are the dangerous, packages belongs to the distro, not people, devs, tus, and users should practice that IMO. Btw, Stijn Segers try to don't reply on a digest, is kinda hard to understand.. Cheers -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Developer / Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
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Angel Velásquez
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Evangelos Foutras
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Loui Chang
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Stijn Segers