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Nicky726

7 Feb 2011 7 Feb '11

9:06 a.m.

Angel Velasquez wrote:

Why you didn't reply on the thread ? :S now this thread is splitted without reason

Sorry, Re: somehow slipped out from Subject line. :-( Nicky -- Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got Till it's gone (Joni Mitchell)

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Isaac Dupree

7 Feb 7 Feb

9:35 a.m.

New subject: [aur-general] replying-on-thread issues (was AUR & Copyright)

On 02/07/11 04:06, Nicky726 wrote:

Angel Velasquez wrote:

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Why you didn't reply on the thread ? :S now this thread is splitted without reason

Sorry, Re: somehow slipped out from Subject line. :-( Nicky

Actually, I think your e-mail client is misconfigured/broken somehow; let's debug. It looks like none of the messages you've sent on the Arch lists have stayed on-thread. Looking in the headers, the message you are replying to here says Message-ID: and your header does not match this value in In-Reply-To (as successful replies do), and rather says In-Reply-To: . (Which indicates your client does think it is sending a reply of some sort, not just a new message.) Your User-Agent claims to be User-Agent: KMail/1.13.6 (Linux/2.6.37-ARCH; KDE/4.6.0; x86_64; ; ), and this appears to have happened for you on the Arch list with your earlier versions of KMail too. I I don't remember seeing this particular issue before; any idea (Nicky or anyone) what's wrong? -Isaac

Magnus Therning

10:02 a.m.

New subject: [aur-general] replying-on-thread issues (was AUR & Copyright)

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 09:35, Isaac Dupree wrote:

On 02/07/11 04:06, Nicky726 wrote:

...
Angel Velasquez wrote:

...
Why you didn't reply on the thread ? :S now this thread is splitted without reason

Sorry, Re: somehow slipped out from Subject line. :-( Nicky

Actually, I think your e-mail client is misconfigured/broken somehow; let's debug. It looks like none of the messages you've sent on the Arch lists have stayed on-thread. Looking in the headers, the message you are replying to here says

Message-ID:

and your header does not match this value in In-Reply-To (as successful replies do), and rather says

In-Reply-To: .

(Which indicates your client does think it is sending a reply of some sort, not just a new message.)

Your User-Agent claims to be User-Agent: KMail/1.13.6 (Linux/2.6.37-ARCH; KDE/4.6.0; x86_64; ; ), and this appears to have happened for you on the Arch list with your earlier versions of KMail too. I I don't remember seeing this particular issue before; any idea (Nicky or anyone) what's wrong?

I have never seen this issue come up for any KMail user, so it might also be worth looking into how email is delivered, i.e. is there any party that rewrites mail headers? /M -- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus@therning.org jabber: magnus@therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus

Nicky726

1:49 p.m.

New subject: [aur-general] replying-on-thread issues (was AUR & Copyright)

Dne pondělí 07 února 2011 10:35:19 jste napsal(a):

On 02/07/11 04:06, Nicky726 wrote:

...
Angel Velasquez wrote:

...
Why you didn't reply on the thread ? :S now this thread is splitted without reason

Sorry, Re: somehow slipped out from Subject line. :-( Nicky

Actually, I think your e-mail client is misconfigured/broken somehow; let's debug. It looks like none of the messages you've sent on the Arch lists have stayed on-thread. Looking in the headers, the message you are replying to here says

Message-ID:

and your header does not match this value in In-Reply-To (as successful replies do), and rather says

In-Reply-To: .

(Which indicates your client does think it is sending a reply of some sort, not just a new message.)

Your User-Agent claims to be User-Agent: KMail/1.13.6 (Linux/2.6.37-ARCH; KDE/4.6.0; x86_64; ; ), and this appears to have happened for you on the Arch list with your earlier versions of KMail too. I I don't remember seeing this particular issue before; any idea (Nicky or anyone) what's wrong?

-Isaac

Could that be that I get Arch's mailing lists as diggests and reply to them in the client and copy the subject of the particular message. Am I supposed to do it in a different way? (Possibly with keeping the messages delivered in a digest, not every separetely). Now as this is a reply to a directly delivered message, it should fit correctly. I didn't touch the subject field in this case at all. Btw, thax you're trying to debug my issues. Nicky -- Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got Till it's gone (Joni Mitchell)

Magnus Therning

2:03 p.m.

New subject: [aur-general] replying-on-thread issues (was AUR & Copyright)

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 13:49, Nicky726 wrote:

Dne pondělí 07 února 2011 10:35:19 jste napsal(a):

...
On 02/07/11 04:06, Nicky726 wrote:

...
Angel Velasquez wrote:

...
Why you didn't reply on the thread ? :S now this thread is splitted without reason

Sorry, Re: somehow slipped out from Subject line. :-( Nicky

Actually, I think your e-mail client is misconfigured/broken somehow; let's debug. It looks like none of the messages you've sent on the Arch lists have stayed on-thread. Looking in the headers, the message you are replying to here says

Message-ID:

and your header does not match this value in In-Reply-To (as successful replies do), and rather says

In-Reply-To: .

(Which indicates your client does think it is sending a reply of some sort, not just a new message.)

Your User-Agent claims to be User-Agent: KMail/1.13.6 (Linux/2.6.37-ARCH; KDE/4.6.0; x86_64; ; ), and this appears to have happened for you on the Arch list with your earlier versions of KMail too. I I don't remember seeing this particular issue before; any idea (Nicky or anyone) what's wrong?

-Isaac

Could that be that I get Arch's mailing lists as diggests and reply to them in the client and copy the subject of the particular message. Am I supposed to do it in a different way? (Possibly with keeping the messages delivered in a digest, not every separetely). Now as this is a reply to a directly delivered message, it should fit correctly. I didn't touch the subject field in this case at all. Btw, thax you're trying to debug my issues.

I don't usually subscribe in digest-mode, but I vaguely recall that there's a setting to get the digest in the form where each message is a MIME attachment to the digest message (if that makes sense). When I did that then my MUA, mutt, could open each attachment as an email and I could reply from that view, which resulted in the correct In-Reply-To and In-Relation-To values. I'm not a user of KMail myself so you'll have to experiment with it to see if it behaves the same way as mutt ;-) /M -- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus@therning.org jabber: magnus@therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus

Ng Oon-Ee

3:31 p.m.

New subject: [aur-general] replying-on-thread issues (was AUR & Copyright)

On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 14:03 +0000, Magnus Therning wrote:

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 13:49, Nicky726 wrote:

...
Could that be that I get Arch's mailing lists as diggests and reply to them in the client and copy the subject of the particular message. Am I supposed to do it in a different way? (Possibly with keeping the messages delivered in a digest, not every separetely). Now as this is a reply to a directly delivered message, it should fit correctly. I didn't touch the subject field in this case at all. Btw, thax you're trying to debug my issues.

I don't usually subscribe in digest-mode, but I vaguely recall that there's a setting to get the digest in the form where each message is a MIME attachment to the digest message (if that makes sense). When I did that then my MUA, mutt, could open each attachment as an email and I could reply from that view, which resulted in the correct In-Reply-To and In-Relation-To values. I'm not a user of KMail myself so you'll have to experiment with it to see if it behaves the same way as mutt ;-)

/M

On other MLs I'm on the general perception is that if you plan to reply, please don't use digests. In other words, digest subscriptions should be considered 'read-only', precisely because of the thread-breaking behaviour. Magnus' solution sounds nifty though, if you can get it working.

Nicky726

10:13 p.m.

New subject: [aur-general] replying-on-thread issues (was AUR & Copyright)

Dne Po 7. února 2011 16:31:22 Ng Oon-Ee napsal(a):

On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 14:03 +0000, Magnus Therning wrote:

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On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 13:49, Nicky726 wrote:

...
Could that be that I get Arch's mailing lists as diggests and reply to them in the client and copy the subject of the particular message. Am I supposed to do it in a different way? (Possibly with keeping the messages delivered in a digest, not every separetely). Now as this is a reply to a directly delivered message, it should fit correctly. I didn't touch the subject field in this case at all. Btw, thax you're trying to debug my issues.

I don't usually subscribe in digest-mode, but I vaguely recall that there's a setting to get the digest in the form where each message is a MIME attachment to the digest message (if that makes sense). When I did that then my MUA, mutt, could open each attachment as an email and I could reply from that view, which resulted in the correct In-Reply-To and In-Relation-To values. I'm not a user of KMail myself so you'll have to experiment with it to see if it behaves the same way as mutt ;-)

/M

On other MLs I'm on the general perception is that if you plan to reply, please don't use digests. In other words, digest subscriptions should be considered 'read-only', precisely because of the thread-breaking behaviour.

Magnus' solution sounds nifty though, if you can get it working.

Lets see now, if I got it working, KMail displays encapsulated messages and now I replied directly to yours. -- Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got Till it's gone (Joni Mitchell)

Ng Oon-Ee

11:07 p.m.

New subject: [aur-general] replying-on-thread issues (was AUR & Copyright)

On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 23:13 +0100, Nicky726 wrote:

Dne Po 7. února 2011 16:31:22 Ng Oon-Ee napsal(a):

...
On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 14:03 +0000, Magnus Therning wrote:

...
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 13:49, Nicky726 wrote:

...
Could that be that I get Arch's mailing lists as diggests and reply to them in the client and copy the subject of the particular message. Am I supposed to do it in a different way? (Possibly with keeping the messages delivered in a digest, not every separetely). Now as this is a reply to a directly delivered message, it should fit correctly. I didn't touch the subject field in this case at all. Btw, thax you're trying to debug my issues.

I don't usually subscribe in digest-mode, but I vaguely recall that there's a setting to get the digest in the form where each message is a MIME attachment to the digest message (if that makes sense). When I did that then my MUA, mutt, could open each attachment as an email and I could reply from that view, which resulted in the correct In-Reply-To and In-Relation-To values. I'm not a user of KMail myself so you'll have to experiment with it to see if it behaves the same way as mutt ;-)

/M

On other MLs I'm on the general perception is that if you plan to reply, please don't use digests. In other words, digest subscriptions should be considered 'read-only', precisely because of the thread-breaking behaviour.

Magnus' solution sounds nifty though, if you can get it working.

Lets see now, if I got it working, KMail displays encapsulated messages and now I replied directly to yours.

Seems to work for me here on Evolution.

Nicky726

8 Feb 8 Feb

9:58 a.m.

New subject: [aur-general] replying-on-thread issues (was AUR & Copyright)

Dne Út 8. února 2011 00:07:42 Ng Oon-Ee napsal(a):

Seems to work for me here on Evolution.

Nice to hear. Thanx to all who helped me. Nicky -- Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got Till it's gone (Joni Mitchell)

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