On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 09:38:30PM +0200, Robert Knauer wrote:

Hello, please disown nvidia-pae[1], it's outdated for more than a month now and I mailed the maintainer on 1st of September and got no answer.

Thanks, Robert

[1] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=40101

Don't take this personally... you're just the one who happened to bring it up. Do we _really_ need all this duplication? Does every kernel in the AUR needs its own _from_ _source_ instructions to build kernel modules? Really, these should all be about 3-4 lines to change in the extra/nvidia PKGBUILD. Instead, we have... nvidia-apparmor nvidia-bede nvidia-bfs nvidia-bl nvidia-ck nvidia-custom nvidia-fbcondecor nvidia-ice nvidia-ll nvidia-lqx nvidia-mainline nvidia-pae nvidia-pf nvidia-rifs nvidia-rt nvidia-uksm nvidia-zen I'm sure these are all unique and beautiful in their own way, but really, they're all duplicates as far as I'm concerned. nvidia is the biggest offender of this, but it certainly applies to other modules as well. </rant> dave

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 3:47 AM, Dave Reisner <d@falconindy.com> wrote:

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 09:38:30PM +0200, Robert Knauer wrote:

...

Hello, please disown nvidia-pae[1], it's outdated for more than a month now and I mailed the maintainer on 1st of September and got no answer.

Thanks, Robert

[1] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=40101

Don't take this personally... you're just the one who happened to bring it up. Do we _really_ need all this duplication? Does every kernel in the AUR needs its own _from_ _source_ instructions to build kernel modules? Really, these should all be about 3-4 lines to change in the extra/nvidia PKGBUILD. Instead, we have...

nvidia-apparmor nvidia-bede nvidia-bfs nvidia-bl nvidia-ck nvidia-custom nvidia-fbcondecor nvidia-ice nvidia-ll nvidia-lqx nvidia-mainline nvidia-pae nvidia-pf nvidia-rifs nvidia-rt nvidia-uksm nvidia-zen

I'm sure these are all unique and beautiful in their own way, but really, they're all duplicates as far as I'm concerned. nvidia is the biggest offender of this, but it certainly applies to other modules as well.

</rant>

dave

So that's why I expect pacman to bring in dkms or dkms-like functions for long so we only need something like dkms-nvidia. As an example, [community-testing]/virtualbox-host-source is now using dkms to build its kernel modules and it works very well. So I expect AUR/dkms-nvidia to be moved into [community] or [extra] if possible (it has already 94 votes too) and become recommended method for nvidia module someday. Just a side note that some of the packages, for example nvidia-rt, are patched versions and not easy enough for user to just apply on the [extra]/nvidia PKGBUILD. Felix Yan Twitter: @felixonmars Wiki: http://felixc.at