On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Drew Frank wrote:

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Drew Frank wrote:

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On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Aaron Griffin wrote:

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On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Drew Frank wrote:

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I do this all the time as well. One possible solution: if an "I use this!" message were sent to the stat-tracking server automatically from pacman upon installing a package, it would not be much of an extension to send a "Oops, not anymore" message when it is uninstalled. Thoughts?

That's (a) a breach of privacy and (b) something that would never get integrated into pacman.

The pkgstats server doesn't keep track of user info. THe old archstats did, but we have proven time and time again that no one ever uses archstats.... we've had it for ages, have you ever used it?

Nope, I've never heard of archstats =p. Maybe it could be integrated into yaourt, if not pacman. I know aurvote already is, but perhaps it could be just made automated unless a user specifically opts-out. Also, maybe anonymous usage info could be allowed from those users who don't have AUR accounts. It could be treated differently (as less reliable) but would probably be better than nothing. Would that address the breach of privacy issue?

We tried... man we tried. Archstats has been around for some time and we've tried to get people using it. It was a simple matter of installing it and adding a rc.d DAEMON. But the pkgstats thing has gotten more users in a matter of weeks than archstats. I know everyone wants super awesome metrics here, but it's just not possible. Between privacy issues, complacency, and many other things, they will never ever ever be accurate. At some point we have to say "ok, good enough".