Good day list, I'm currently a little bit stumped about this particular request. I wouldn't have said anything if there were the right reason named for deletion. One reason would be, that due to upstream stagnation the waybox release could only be compiled with an older wlroots versions. Would have been a fair point and I was aware of that restriction. But what happened instead? I got a OOD Mail, 2 min later a deletion request[0] was issued. And eight minutes down the road this request got already accepted. Hella speedy process. If I recall the requests I made, there was time involved for checking if I made a reasonable request. But again: There were reasons why a request could have been valid. So let us take look:
Regarding the OOD message: Quote: "This branch is 32 commits behind wizbright:master." Well, yes. But we are talking about a release from a tagged release. We aren't talking about waybox-git. And yes, it wasn't the main repo, but it was the personal repo from the last active developer. He did tag only in his repo as he wasn't the owner[1].
Regarding the request: Quote: "th1nhhdk [1] filed a deletion request for waybox [2]:
-There's no "release", only the git version exists -Maintainer's custom repo is outdated -Maintainer don't want to maintain this package anymore"
Okay, first point is debatable. But from my point of view were the tags from someone who actively contributed in the main repo and knew what he was doing. Second point is in my opinion not valid, as it build from a tag. But what maintainer are we talking about? The waybox maintainer or the PKGBUILD maintainer? If the latter. Well... I have nothing to do with this so called custom repo. And now the third point: Again. What maintainer? I got reprimanded in the past for requests that made it difficult when looked at a later point. And this was only a few hours ago. Although I must admit I cannot recall if I pinned a comment regarding the status with recent wlroots packages. But I'm fairly sure I didn't orphan the package (well, I got the OOD-message) and I didn't leave a comment like the previous maintainer of the PKGBUILD, who wrote an agiated message when he dropped it.
So what do I want, after I writing this wall of text? In a tone which will likely come around as angry (kinda, but only at the situation and how it went and not the persons involved). Nothing in particular. I won't reinstate the package, as a deletion request with the right argument could have been deemed valid. My main gripes with this request in particular is the following point: * No time for me to react as the whole thing went down in 10 minutes And as far as I can tell, there was no attempt in making contact beforehand. I was even attempting to look at this again as someone informed me about a possible missing build dep. And was there even a check if the arguments were valid?
In the past it took some time before requests were accepted. Orphaned, ood and truly dead sources were removed faster of course, but it could still be vetoed. But this one? One with a fairly active maintainer? Not so much.
But whatever. It happened.
Best regards
____________ [0] https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-requests/2021-December/063697.html [1] https://github.com/wizbright/waybox/issues/25
On 16/12/2021 15:52, Lex Black via aur-general wrote:
Good day list,
Hi Lex,
Thanks for reaching out.
I'm currently a little bit stumped about this particular request. I wouldn't have said anything if there were the right reason named for deletion. One reason would be, that due to upstream stagnation the waybox release could only be compiled with an older wlroots versions. Would have been a fair point and I was aware of that restriction. But what happened instead? I got a OOD Mail, 2 min later a deletion request[0] was issued. And eight minutes down the road this request got already accepted. Hella speedy process. If I recall the requests I made, there was time involved for checking if I made a reasonable request. But again: There were reasons why a request could have been valid. So let us take look:
Regarding the OOD message: Quote: "This branch is 32 commits behind wizbright:master." Well, yes. But we are talking about a release from a tagged release. We aren't talking about waybox-git. And yes, it wasn't the main repo, but it was the personal repo from the last active developer. He did tag only in his repo as he wasn't the owner[1].
Regarding the request: Quote: "th1nhhdk [1] filed a deletion request for waybox [2]:
-There's no "release", only the git version exists -Maintainer's custom repo is outdated -Maintainer don't want to maintain this package anymore"
Okay, first point is debatable. But from my point of view were the tags from someone who actively contributed in the main repo and knew what he was doing. Second point is in my opinion not valid, as it build from a tag. But what maintainer are we talking about? The waybox maintainer or the PKGBUILD maintainer? If the latter. Well... I have nothing to do with this so called custom repo. And now the third point: Again. What maintainer? I got reprimanded in the past for requests that made it difficult when looked at a later point. And this was only a few hours ago. Although I must admit I cannot recall if I pinned a comment regarding the status with recent wlroots packages. But I'm fairly sure I didn't orphan the package (well, I got the OOD-message) and I didn't leave a comment like the previous maintainer of the PKGBUILD, who wrote an agiated message when he dropped it.
Thanks for taking the time and explaining your view on this. I understand the reaction for the deletion request might have been a bit quick from my side so I'd happily restore the package if you like, just let me know.
Kind regards,
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