[aur-general] Make AUR notifier messages more visible
Hi I found that AUR comment emails are too invisible in my mailbox. The reason is that notifier sends messages to aur-notify@archlinux.org and hides my email in "bcc". Thus email clients (e.g. gmail) do not mark those emails with ">" symbol and they lost in miriads of similar emails from maillists. It would be better if these emails were sent "to" user email as it makes such emails more visible.
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Anatol Pomozov <anatol.pomozov@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
I found that AUR comment emails are too invisible in my mailbox. The reason is that notifier sends messages to aur-notify@archlinux.org and hides my email in "bcc". Thus email clients (e.g. gmail) do not mark those emails with ">" symbol and they lost in miriads of similar emails from maillists.
It would be better if these emails were sent "to" user email as it makes such emails more visible.
Just do a goddamn filter in Gmail. more button above the message (the last one) → filter messages like these → create filter with this search (bottom RIGHT corner of the window) → pick your poison. I suggest labels, they are very helpful when you have many mails. -- Kwpolska <http://kwpolska.tk> | GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 stop html mail | always bottom-post http://asciiribbon.org | http://caliburn.nl/topposting.html
Hi, On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <kwpolska@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Anatol Pomozov <anatol.pomozov@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
I found that AUR comment emails are too invisible in my mailbox. The reason is that notifier sends messages to aur-notify@archlinux.org and hides my email in "bcc". Thus email clients (e.g. gmail) do not mark those emails with ">" symbol and they lost in miriads of similar emails from maillists.
It would be better if these emails were sent "to" user email as it makes such emails more visible.
Just do a goddamn filter in Gmail.
Yes I am aware of filters (I worked in Gmail UI team btw). I already have 300+ filters and I hate to add more, especially for one-time notifications. Forcing everyone to create a filter for aur notifications sounds wrong to me. Most people just will not do this. And I think "invisible" message by default + people's laziness to create filters is the reason why it is more difficult to get a package maintainer response via comments rather than via personal email. Most web sites (such as forums) known to me send notifications "to:" user exactly for this reason - make these messages visible by default.
more button above the message (the last one) → filter messages like these → create filter with this search (bottom RIGHT corner of the window) → pick your poison. I suggest labels, they are very helpful when you have many mails.
-- Kwpolska <http://kwpolska.tk> | GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 stop html mail | always bottom-post http://asciiribbon.org | http://caliburn.nl/topposting.html
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 09:08:52AM -0700, Anatol Pomozov wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
Just do a goddamn filter in Gmail.
Yes I am aware of filters (I worked in Gmail UI team btw). I already have 300+ filters and I hate to add more, especially for one-time notifications.
Forcing everyone to create a filter for aur notifications sounds wrong to me. Most people just will not do this. And I think "invisible" message by default + people's laziness to create filters is the reason why it is more difficult to get a package maintainer response via comments rather than via personal email.
Most web sites (such as forums) known to me send notifications "to:" user exactly for this reason - make these messages visible by default.
I personally don't have any objections either way, but is there a reason *not* to send notifications directly to the user? Sure, there are ways around it (filters for Gmail) , but why make it an issue in the first place? Just my $0.02 Allen
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Allen Li <cyberdupo56@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 09:08:52AM -0700, Anatol Pomozov wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
Just do a goddamn filter in Gmail.
Yes I am aware of filters (I worked in Gmail UI team btw). I already have 300+ filters and I hate to add more, especially for one-time notifications.
Forcing everyone to create a filter for aur notifications sounds wrong to me. Most people just will not do this. And I think "invisible" message by default + people's laziness to create filters is the reason why it is more difficult to get a package maintainer response via comments rather than via personal email.
Most web sites (such as forums) known to me send notifications "to:" user exactly for this reason - make these messages visible by default.
I personally don't have any objections either way, but is there a reason *not* to send notifications directly to the user? Sure, there are ways around it (filters for Gmail) , but why make it an issue in the first place?
AUR notifications are sent as a single e-mail to all subscribed users to avoid having to send each and every subscriber a separate e-mail. They are sent as a BCC to avoid having every subscribed user e-mail address in the "To" field. I believe the Arch bugtracker works the same way, so it's not something completely unique to the AUR.
Just my $0.02
Allen
Hi On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 4:00 PM, canyonknight <canyonknight@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Allen Li <cyberdupo56@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 09:08:52AM -0700, Anatol Pomozov wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
Just do a goddamn filter in Gmail.
Yes I am aware of filters (I worked in Gmail UI team btw). I already have 300+ filters and I hate to add more, especially for one-time notifications.
Forcing everyone to create a filter for aur notifications sounds wrong to me. Most people just will not do this. And I think "invisible" message by default + people's laziness to create filters is the reason why it is more difficult to get a package maintainer response via comments rather than via personal email.
Most web sites (such as forums) known to me send notifications "to:" user exactly for this reason - make these messages visible by default.
I personally don't have any objections either way, but is there a reason *not* to send notifications directly to the user? Sure, there are ways around it (filters for Gmail) , but why make it an issue in the first place?
AUR notifications are sent as a single e-mail to all subscribed users to avoid having to send each and every subscriber a separate e-mail. They are sent as a BCC to avoid having every subscribed user e-mail address in the "To" field. I believe the Arch bugtracker works the same way, so it's not something completely unique to the AUR.
Filed a task in case if somebody wants to take care of it https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/34843
participants (4)
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Allen Li
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Anatol Pomozov
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canyonknight
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Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick