[PRQ#43621] Deletion Request for dnschanger-bin
zxp19821005 [1] filed a deletion request for dnschanger-bin [2]: Suspicious GUI application. Website and GitHub readme only in Arabic. And for Linux, changing the DNS server does not need specialized GUI application binary from untrusted source that uses its own custom- built Chromium/Electron engine. And also such an application does not warrant a very nice, shiny, PR- heavy facade that the website presents. [1] https://aur.archlinux.org/account/zxp19821005/ [2] https://aur.archlinux.org/pkgbase/dnschanger-bin/
Jul 5, 2023 00:44:53 notify@aur.archlinux.org:
zxp19821005 [1] filed a deletion request for dnschanger-bin [2]:
Suspicious GUI application. Website and GitHub readme only in Arabic. And for Linux, changing the DNS server does not need specialized GUI application binary from untrusted source that uses its own custom- built Chromium/Electron engine. And also such an application does not warrant a very nice, shiny, PR- heavy facade that the website presents.
[1] https://aur.archlinux.org/account/zxp19821005/ [2] https://aur.archlinux.org/pkgbase/dnschanger-bin/
What's actually suspicious to me is your account. You submitted this package yourself on May 17, 2023. Presumably the language used by the project maintainers has not changed in the last two months, and now you are requesting deletion? First off, the readme is actually entirely in English [3]. Beyond this, you presented racist reasoning instead of technical reasons to delete this package. The website is in Arabic - and what? There's over 360 million native Arabic speakers (dialects notwithstanding). The actual technical reasoning would be at best "0 votes, 0 popularity, and I don't use this package that I submitted anymore". Please keep your bigotry to yourself. And honestly, I am very suspicious about why you've submitted so many -bin packages in the last few months that you are recently requesting deletion of... - éclairevoyant [3] https://github.com/DnsChanger/dnsChanger-desktop
The software is suspicious because it is for a purpose that is superfluous on Linux, to change the DNS server settings. And then the website is very marketing-heavy and purports claims that are far-fetched and unreasonable. Turns out, the website is in Persian, with Arabic script. Google Translate did not find the language, it set it to English source language. Translated from Persian by Google translate: "It is an open source software with which users can simply change their DNS settings and thus have access to the Internet at a faster and more efficient rate" " Features of DNS Changer-Desktop: Changing Asan DNS is personal - you will also need to change the DNS parameters of the system. Prestibani from a different DNS - There are 3000 different DNS servers. Without speed limitation - There are no limits to the internet speed, as you can find a number. a dozen guns - With the help of a dozen items, you can quickly press the button. Take a quick step. Sazi character - What you need to know is that the DNS is specialized, so that you have enough storage and payments after you use it. I wish - An application in the form of an open source has became widespread, and now there are no security problems that have arisen. " My takeaway: Changing the DNS server does not remove any speed limit on the internet connection. And it has nothing to do with storage or payments. From Iran, one needs to use a foreign VPN server to access many, otherwise completely blocked Western websites and services, like social media. VPN's are typically provided for a fee. Changing the DNS server on its own does nothing to lift the blocking of affected servers and services. And VPN is not a DNS-based technology, so a DNS changer application cannot create a VPN connection. Which means these bombastic claims the website is making are still suspicious. On 5 July 2023 07:25:31 GMT+02:00, "é" <eclairevoyant9@gmail.com> wrote:
Jul 5, 2023 00:44:53 notify@aur.archlinux.org:
zxp19821005 [1] filed a deletion request for dnschanger-bin [2]:
Suspicious GUI application. Website and GitHub readme only in Arabic. And for Linux, changing the DNS server does not need specialized GUI application binary from untrusted source that uses its own custom- built Chromium/Electron engine. And also such an application does not warrant a very nice, shiny, PR- heavy facade that the website presents.
[1] https://aur.archlinux.org/account/zxp19821005/ [2] https://aur.archlinux.org/pkgbase/dnschanger-bin/
What's actually suspicious to me is your account.
You submitted this package yourself on May 17, 2023. Presumably the language used by the project maintainers has not changed in the last two months, and now you are requesting deletion?
First off, the readme is actually entirely in English [3]. Beyond this, you presented racist reasoning instead of technical reasons to delete this package. The website is in Arabic - and what? There's over 360 million native Arabic speakers (dialects notwithstanding).
The actual technical reasoning would be at best "0 votes, 0 popularity, and I don't use this package that I submitted anymore". Please keep your bigotry to yourself.
And honestly, I am very suspicious about why you've submitted so many -bin packages in the last few months that you are recently requesting deletion of...
- éclairevoyant
Then let's keep the discussion to the technical reasons. People use GUIs for all sorts of trivial tasks, even those that are achieved much more simply via modifying a config file. That's not much of a reason to call it suspicious on its own. I mean people even ask for GUIs to edit pacman.conf... Anyway, I don't know what the website says, and I don't really trust Google Translate in general (even the output you posted makes no sense to me), but whatever, if they're making outlandish claims then sure delete it. No one on Arch is using the software anyway. But if all of this is true, why did @zxp19821005 even submit this in the first place, and also wait 2 months before requesting deletion? If they suspected this to be malware, malware should not be left around on the AUR for months, and should certainly not be *submitted* to the AUR either. - éclairevoyant
Would just like to interject that changing the DNS server *can* bypass some types of blocking, including those set in place by many ISPs. Additionally, while the download speed of a single large file (the arch iso, for example) may not be sped up, most real-world tests have found that a DNS server that responds faster can make the web browsing experience significantly snappier and more responsive. This is, in part, due to the fact that the internet is not just one large single file that is downloaded, but many small files, and if the DNS requests for resolving how to access all of those is slow, you may not notice an additional 50ms delay for a single file, but you definitely will for the thousands required to load a standard webpage. On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 at 11:11, Marcell Meszaros <marcell.meszaros@runbox.eu> wrote:
The software is suspicious because it is for a purpose that is superfluous on Linux, to change the DNS server settings.
And then the website is very marketing-heavy and purports claims that are far-fetched and unreasonable.
Turns out, the website is in Persian, with Arabic script. Google Translate did not find the language, it set it to English source language.
Translated from Persian by Google translate:
"It is an open source software with which users can simply change their DNS settings and thus have access to the Internet at a faster and more efficient rate"
" Features of DNS Changer-Desktop:
Changing Asan DNS is personal - you will also need to change the DNS parameters of the system.
Prestibani from a different DNS - There are 3000 different DNS servers.
Without speed limitation - There are no limits to the internet speed, as you can find a number.
a dozen guns - With the help of a dozen items, you can quickly press the button. Take a quick step.
Sazi character - What you need to know is that the DNS is specialized, so that you have enough storage and payments after you use it.
I wish - An application in the form of an open source has became widespread, and now there are no security problems that have arisen. "
My takeaway:
Changing the DNS server does not remove any speed limit on the internet connection.
And it has nothing to do with storage or payments.
From Iran, one needs to use a foreign VPN server to access many, otherwise completely blocked Western websites and services, like social media. VPN's are typically provided for a fee. Changing the DNS server on its own does nothing to lift the blocking of affected servers and services.
And VPN is not a DNS-based technology, so a DNS changer application cannot create a VPN connection.
Which means these bombastic claims the website is making are still suspicious.
On 5 July 2023 07:25:31 GMT+02:00, "é" <eclairevoyant9@gmail.com> wrote:
Jul 5, 2023 00:44:53 notify@aur.archlinux.org:
zxp19821005 [1] filed a deletion request for dnschanger-bin [2]:
Suspicious GUI application. Website and GitHub readme only in Arabic. And for Linux, changing the DNS server does not need specialized GUI application binary from untrusted source that uses its own custom- built Chromium/Electron engine. And also such an application does not warrant a very nice, shiny, PR- heavy facade that the website presents.
[1] https://aur.archlinux.org/account/zxp19821005/ [2] https://aur.archlinux.org/pkgbase/dnschanger-bin/
What's actually suspicious to me is your account.
You submitted this package yourself on May 17, 2023. Presumably the
language used by the project maintainers has not changed in the last two months, and now you are requesting deletion?
First off, the readme is actually entirely in English [3]. Beyond this,
you presented racist reasoning instead of technical reasons to delete this package. The website is in Arabic - and what? There's over 360 million native Arabic speakers (dialects notwithstanding).
The actual technical reasoning would be at best "0 votes, 0 popularity,
and I don't use this package that I submitted anymore". Please keep your bigotry to yourself.
And honestly, I am very suspicious about why you've submitted so many
-bin packages in the last few months that you are recently requesting deletion of...
- éclairevoyant
Request #43621 has been Accepted by artafinde [1]: [Autogenerated] Accepted deletion for dnschanger-bin. [1] https://aur.archlinux.org/account/artafinde/
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