Hi Guys, I know this probably doesn't belong here (since I can't offer a patch), but you might know of a better solution than I. It's probably not even important enough to fix (unless the change can be copied to pacman3 also). It seems date handling over http always thinks the package databases are out of date. If I run with -v, I get these every time when the database was last sync'd via http. failed to get lastupdate time for current (no big deal) failed to get lastupdate time for extra (no big deal) failed to get lastupdate time for unstable (no big deal) It's my guess that's where the problem lies. Screen capture representing the problem is attached (to avoid line wrapping). FYI, I'm using Arch's apache package and Arch's proftpd package on the server.