Hi! In my opinion one of the best thinks in pacman that unlike many other package managers user can undo lots of thinks (see -R group after -S group, -Rs after -S ...). However, user cannot undo a package upgrade, because most sync servers doesn't store old packages. So I think that it would be very useful, if there would be a pacman or makepkg command to create a package from an installed one (or is this implemented?). We could(?) do this from the local db and the installed files. Of course this wouldn't be a "distro" package, because config files can change etc. but this is even better for backup/undo. You may say, that this is totally useless, because if a package is installed then there must exist a proper .tar.gz file somewhere. -but package can be installed from aur and user may deleted the "binary" file -if you move to a place with no network, you can easily create "backup" packages before -R (and reinstall) or you can give this package to your Archer friend -slightly reduces needless Arch-server using -it can be easily implemented (IMHO) Bye, ngaba ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.