Re: [pacman-dev] pacman-dev Digest, Vol 18, Issue 26

8 Mar 2007

stop sending me these emails
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Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:09:54 -0500
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: pacman should ask the user on multipile choices
      (Aaron Griffin)
   2. Re: pacman should ask the user on multipile choices
      (Roman Kyrylych)
   3. Re: The real deal - pacman 3.0.0 RC1 (Alexander Fehr)
   4. Thank you for new pacman. (Dawid Ci??arkiewicz)
   5. Re: alpm_list: missing quick access to last element
      (J?rgen H?tzel)
   6. Re: The real deal - pacman 3.0.0 RC1 (Pierre Schmitz)
   7. Re: The real deal - pacman 3.0.0 RC1 (Alexander Fehr)
   8. Re: The real deal - pacman 3.0.0 RC1 (Aaron Griffin)
   9. CVS update of pacman-lib/src/pacman (pacman.c) (Aaron Griffin)
  10. Re: The real deal - pacman 3.0.0 RC1 (Aaron Griffin)
  11. Re: The real deal - pacman 3.0.0 RC1 (Travis Willard)
  12. CVS update of pacman-lib/src/pacman (deptest.c) (Dan McGee)
  13. 20070308 Pacman Italian patch (Giovanni Scafora)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 13:33:25 -0600
From: "Aaron Griffin" 
Subject: Re: [pacman-dev] pacman should ask the user on multipile
  choices
To: "Discussion list for pacman development"
  
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Hi,
I am not sure if this is a bug or missing feature; so I sent this to the 
ml
first.
Sometime a package depends on a "meta" package which is provided by more
On 3/7/07, Pierre Schmitz  wrote:
than
...
one packages. For example "libgl" or "smtp-server". At the moment pacman 
just
installs the first package it founds which is the wrong decision for 
most
cases.
Right, this is the current way pacman2 does it.  It's harder to do and
I think it's either in a TODO in the code, or on my TODO.aaron list.
Not sure, but it's planned.
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 21:45:48 +0200
From: "Roman Kyrylych" 
Subject: Re: [pacman-dev] pacman should ask the user on multipile
  choices
To: "Discussion list for pacman development"
  
Message-ID:
  <577f15290703071145r799e29fsd47994b8bf9ba16d@mail.gmail.com>
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On 3/7/07, Pierre Schmitz  wrote:
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Hi,
I am not sure if this is a bug or missing feature; so I sent this to
...
...
first.
Sometime a package depends on a "meta" package which is provided by 
more than
one packages. For example "libgl" or "smtp-server". At the moment
2007/3/7, Aaron Griffin :
the ml
pacman just
...
...
installs the first package it founds which is the wrong decision for 
most
cases.
Right, this is the current way pacman2 does it.  It's harder to do and
I think it's either in a TODO in the code, or on my TODO.aaron list.
Not sure, but it's planned.
Yep, I surely remember the discussion about this somewhere but neither
Flyspray nor Gmail are able to find it... doh...
I guess with --noconfirm we'll get old behavour anyway. We might add
some option for pacman.conf though, like "Alias web-server=lighttpd"
but it will be useful only for first install, so I dunno if it worth
it..
--
Roman Kyrylych (????? ???????)
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 21:02:39 +0100
From: Alexander Fehr 
Subject: Re: [pacman-dev] The real deal - pacman 3.0.0 RC1
To: pacman-dev@archlinux.org
Message-ID: <20070307210239.f11ee28e.pizzapunk@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 12:20:20 -0500
"Dan McGee"  wrote:
...
Anyone here have anything to say about pacman3? Maybe even a "great
job guys, I've had no problems at all?" Even you list-lurkers out
there, feel free to speak up. We'd really like to get all the input we
can so we are not scared as hell when we push it to testing and
current soon after.
It's working fine here. Two small things I have noticed:
$ pacman -V
...
Copyright (C) 2002-2006 Judd Vinet 
...
-> 2006 should be changed to 2007
$ pacman -h
...
pacman {-R --remove}  [options] <package>
pacman {-S --sync}    [options] [package]
...
-> inconsistent use of brackets around package
Alex
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 20:59:13 +0000
From: Dawid Ci??arkiewicz 
Subject: [pacman-dev] Thank you for new pacman.
To: pacman-dev@archlinux.org
Message-ID: <200703072059.14230.dawid.ciezarkiewicz@asn.pl>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"
I've just subscribed so forgive me that I'm opening new thread.
New pacman is very fast and I haven't found single issue using it (and I'm
pretty sure it will stay like this).
Please keep up your great work. Thank you. :)
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 21:05:56 +0100
From: J?rgen H?tzel 
Subject: Re: [pacman-dev] alpm_list: missing quick access to last
  element
To: Discussion list for pacman development 
Message-ID: <20070307200555.GA14681@h5331.serverkompetenz.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 01:14:27PM -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote:
...
On 3/5/07, Aaron Griffin  wrote:
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whereas a typical implementation of the same thing
(like ours) requires two.
requires THREE*
Well, this is because the list_header is embedded in the data structures.
This requires us to change every pacman struct to include the list_header 
(if it
used by the list functions). List callback function like alpm_list_fn_cmp
will still require *void casting.
There are other areas where libpacman is quite inefficient (in respect of
memory usage). Consider the fixed size preallocated strings in pmpkg_t
(sizeof(pmpkg_t) == 1948). Memory footprint of pacman reading
current/extra/community requires currently 10M (desc files on disc allocate 
0.8M).
J?rgen
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 21:07:12 +0100
From: Pierre Schmitz 
Subject: Re: [pacman-dev] The real deal - pacman 3.0.0 RC1
To: pacman-dev@archlinux.org
Message-ID: <200703072107.12557.pierre@archlinux.de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Am Mittwoch, 7. M?rz 2007 21:02:39 schrieb Alexander Fehr:
...
$ pacman -h
...
pacman {-R --remove} ?[options] <package>
pacman {-S --sync} ? ?[options] [package]
...
-> inconsistent use of brackets around package
No, because [..] indicates that the parameter is optional.
--
http://www.archlinux.de
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 21:17:19 +0100
From: Alexander Fehr 
Subject: Re: [pacman-dev] The real deal - pacman 3.0.0 RC1
To: pacman-dev@archlinux.org
Message-ID: <20070307211719.a591ac13.pizzapunk@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 21:07:12 +0100
Pierre Schmitz  wrote:
...
Am Mittwoch, 7. M?rz 2007 21:02:39 schrieb Alexander Fehr:
...
$ pacman -h
...
pacman {-R --remove} ?[options] <package>
pacman {-S --sync} ? ?[options] [package]
...
-> inconsistent use of brackets around package
No, because [..] indicates that the parameter is optional.
You are right. Next time I should thing more about it.
Alex
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 14:28:17 -0600
From: "Aaron Griffin" 
Subject: Re: [pacman-dev] The real deal - pacman 3.0.0 RC1
To: "Discussion list for pacman development"
  
Message-ID:
  
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On 3/6/07, Travis Willard  wrote:
...
$ makepkg -c
==> Entering fakeroot environment
==> Making package: audacious-plugins 1.3.0-1 (Tue Mar  6 21:52:22 EST
2007) ==> Checking Runtime Dependencies...
==> Missing Dependencies:
   -> audacious-player>=1.3.0
   -> libmpcdec>=1.2.5
==> Checking Buildtime Dependencies...
==> ERROR: could not resolve all dependencies.
-[travis@Cerebral]-[~/archlinux/extra/multimedia/audacious-plugins]-
09:52pm $ pacman -Q audacious-player
audacious-player 1.3.0-1
-[travis@Cerebral]-[~/archlinux/extra/multimedia/audacious-plugins]-
09:52pm $ pacman -Q libmpcdec
libmpcdec 1.2.5-1
-[travis@Cerebral]-[~/archlinux/extra/multimedia/audacious-plugins]-
09:52pm $ pacman -Q pacman
pacman 3.0.0-1
I do indeed have the deps, as you can see.
This should be fixed in CVS.  The deptesting wasn't splitting the
comparators out, so "foo>=1.2" was taken literally.  That is, you
don't have a package named "foo>=1.2" installed. 8)
Expect this fixed when the next push comes around.
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:29:29 -0500
From: Aaron Griffin 
Subject: [pacman-dev] CVS update of pacman-lib/src/pacman (pacman.c)
To: pacman-dev@archlinux.org
Message-ID: 
Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2007 @ 15:29:29
  Author: aaron
    Path: /home/cvs-pacman/pacman-lib/src/pacman
Modified: pacman.c (1.104 -> 1.105)
* Updated -V output to include the 2007 copyright date.
----------+
 pacman.c |    2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
Index: pacman-lib/src/pacman/pacman.c
diff -u pacman-lib/src/pacman/pacman.c:1.104 
pacman-lib/src/pacman/pacman.c:1.105

--- pacman-lib/src/pacman/pacman.c:1.104	Mon Mar  5 17:13:35 2007
+++ pacman-lib/src/pacman/pacman.c	Wed Mar  7 15:29:28 2007
@@ -167,7 +167,7 @@
 {
  printf("\n");
  printf(" .--.                  Pacman v%s - libalpm v%s\n", 
PACKAGE_VERSION, LIB_VERSION);
-	printf("/ _.-' .-.  .-.  .-.   Copyright (C) 2002-2006 Judd Vinet 
\n");
+	printf("/ _.-' .-.  .-.  .-.   Copyright (C) 2002-2007 Judd Vinet 
\n");
  printf("\\  '-. '-'  '-'  '-'\n");
  printf(" '--'                  \n");
  printf(_("                       This program may be freely 
redistributed under\n"));
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 14:33:18 -0600
From: "Aaron Griffin" 
Subject: Re: [pacman-dev] The real deal - pacman 3.0.0 RC1
To: "Discussion list for pacman development"
  
Message-ID:
  
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
On 3/7/07, Alexander Fehr  wrote:
...
It's working fine here. Two small things I have noticed:
$ pacman -V
...
Copyright (C) 2002-2006 Judd Vinet 
...
-> 2006 should be changed to 2007
Fixed in CVS, thanks
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:48:37 -0500
From: Travis Willard 
Subject: Re: [pacman-dev] The real deal - pacman 3.0.0 RC1
To: pacman-dev@archlinux.org
Message-ID: <20070307154837.66276eb3@localhost.localdomain>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 20:56:24 +0200
"Roman Kyrylych"  wrote:
...
P.S.: What about that dependency bug in makepkg reported by Travis?
Seems to be fixed in CVS.  ;)
--
Travis

    

Re: [pacman-dev] pacman-dev Digest, Vol 18, Issue 26

Mark MacNeill