Ok, after testing it, some changes needed to be made and so they were made. Now it works (at least for me it worked). This is just an idea, but wouldn't it be interesting if we used the stat_busy, stat_done, and stat_fail stuff from /etc/rc.d/functions for the messages in pacman-optimize? Anyway, here is the patch for FS #5009 (woops, just caught another bug.........it wouldn't be able to work after a successful one but it would work after the failure ('cause pacman.new was still haning around.........fixed). It is below as usual. ~ Jamie / yankees26