hi http://darcs.frugalware.org/darcsweb/darcsweb.cgi?r=pacman;a=plain_commitdif...; the scenario is the following: pkg B provides and conflicts with pkg A pkg E depends on pkg C and pkg D pkg C depends on pkg A and pkg D depends on pkg B so during a -S E, pkg A should be removed from the target list no log message needed we already have: debug: package 'xespgs' provides its own conflict flow2: removing 'espgs' from target list which should be enough imho applies to the latest Arch cvs maybe it would be good to create a test for this scenario udv / greetings, VMiklos -- Developer of Frugalware Linux, to make things frugal - http://frugalware.org