[pacman-dev] old delta stat
At some point during this year, I was generating delta for each update that came in. I don't remember if I posted any results here, so just in case, before I throw all this stuff away, I will post the filesize I got here :) Looking quickly at it, it seems a gnome update would see an awesome benefit. 12K abs-2.3.1-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 4,0K abs-2.3.1-1_to_2.3.2-2-i686.delta 4,0K abs-2.3-1_to_2.3.1-1-i686.delta 12K abs-2.3.2-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz 80K acl-2.2.47-1_to_2.2.47-2-i686.delta 156K acl-2.2.47-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz 20K alacarte-0.11.8-1_to_0.12.1-1-i686.delta 132K alacarte-0.12.1-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 408K alsa-lib-1.0.19-1_to_1.0.20-1-i686.delta 484K alsa-lib-1.0.20-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 128K alsa-utils-1.0.19-1_to_1.0.20-1-i686.delta 1,1M alsa-utils-1.0.20-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 84K alsa-utils-1.0.20-1_to_1.0.20-2-i686.delta 1,1M alsa-utils-1.0.20-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz 32K asciidoc-8.3.4-1_to_8.4.2-1-i686.delta 144K asciidoc-8.4.2-1.pkg.tar.gz 20K asciidoc-8.4.2-1_to_8.4.5-1-i686.delta 148K asciidoc-8.4.5-1.pkg.tar.gz 96K atk-1.24.0-1_to_1.26.0-1-i686.delta 244K atk-1.26.0-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 256K at-spi-1.24.1-1_to_1.26.0-1-i686.delta 700K at-spi-1.26.0-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 156K audiofile-0.2.6-3_to_0.2.6-4-i686.delta 156K audiofile-0.2.6-4-i686.pkg.tar.gz 280K automake-1.10.2-1_to_1.11-1-i686.delta 596K automake-1.11-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 84K avahi-0.6.24-1_to_0.6.24-2-i686.delta 744K avahi-0.6.24-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz 368K avahi-0.6.24-2_to_0.6.25-1-i686.delta 720K avahi-0.6.25-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 888K banshee-1.4.2-2_to_1.4.3-3-i686.delta 2,7M banshee-1.4.3-3-i686.pkg.tar.gz 852K bash-3.2.048-3_to_4.0.024-1-i686.delta 960K bash-4.0.024-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 80K bash-completion-1.0-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 4,0K bash-completion-1.0-1_to_1.0-2-i686.delta 80K bash-completion-1.0-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz 80K bash-completion-20091103-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 56K bin86-0.16.17-3_to_0.16.17-4-i686.delta 64K bin86-0.16.17-4-i686.pkg.tar.gz 2,0M binutils-2.19.1-1_to_2.19.1-3-i686.delta 3,7M binutils-2.19.1-3-i686.pkg.tar.gz 764K binutils-2.19.1-3_to_2.19.1-4-i686.delta 3,7M binutils-2.19.1-4-i686.pkg.tar.gz 564K bluez-4.30-1_to_4.39-1-i686.delta 656K bluez-4.39-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 492K boo-0.9.0.3203-2_to_0.9.1.3287-1-i686.delta 572K boo-0.9.1.3287-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 260K brasero-0.9.1-1_to_0.9.1-2-i686.delta 2,8M brasero-0.9.1-2.pkg.tar.gz 1,9M brasero-0.9.1-2_to_2.26.2-1-i686.delta 3,5M brasero-2.26.2-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 352K brasero-2.26.2-1_to_2.26.3-1-i686.delta 3,3M brasero-2.26.3-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 384K brltty-3.10-1_to_3.10-2-i686.delta 1000K brltty-3.10-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz 344K bug-buddy-2.24.2-1_to_2.26.0-1-i686.delta 864K bug-buddy-2.26.0-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 428K bug-buddy-2.26.0-1_to_2.26.0-2-i686.delta 848K bug-buddy-2.26.0-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz 24K bzip2-1.0.5-3_to_1.0.5-4-i686.delta 92K bzip2-1.0.5-4-i686.pkg.tar.gz 4,0K ca-certificates-java-20081028-1_to_20081028-2-i686.delta 100K ca-certificates-java-20081028-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz 264K cairo-1.8.6-1_to_1.8.8-1-i686.delta 428K cairo-1.8.8-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 108K cairomm-1.6.4-1_to_1.8.0-1-i686.delta 140K cairomm-1.8.0-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 288K cdrkit-1.1.9-1_to_1.1.9-2-i686.delta 1,1M cdrkit-1.1.9-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz 260K cheese-2.24.3-1_to_2.26.2-1-i686.delta 2,7M cheese-2.26.2-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 36K cheese-2.26.2-1_to_2.26.3-1-i686.delta 2,7M cheese-2.26.3-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 8,0K compositeproto-0.4-1_to_0.4-2-i686.delta 8,0K compositeproto-0.4-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz 76K consolekit-0.3.0-3_to_0.3.0-5-i686.delta 100K consolekit-0.3.0-5-i686.pkg.tar.gz 60K coreutils-7.1-1_to_7.1-2-i686.delta 4,1M coreutils-7.1-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz 1,5M coreutils-7.1-2_to_7.4-1-i686.delta 4,2M coreutils-7.4-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 72K cpio-2.9-3_to_2.9-5-i686.delta 132K cpio-2.9-5-i686.pkg.tar.gz 8,0K cracklib-2.8.13-1_to_2.8.13-2-i686.delta 440K cracklib-2.8.13-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz 4,0K crda-1.0.1-1_to_1.0.1-2-i686.delta 12K crda-1.0.1-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz 8,0K crda-1.0.1-2_to_1.1.0-1-i686.delta 12K crda-1.1.0-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 532K cryptsetup-1.0.6-2_to_1.0.6-3-i686.delta 564K cryptsetup-1.0.6-3-i686.pkg.tar.gz 420K 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Xavier wrote:
At some point during this year, I was generating delta for each update that came in. I don't remember if I posted any results here, so just in case, before I throw all this stuff away, I will post the filesize I got here :) Looking quickly at it, it seems a gnome update would see an awesome benefit.
<snip> Those numbers do indeed look quite nice. Can you remind me what the status of the repo delta cleanup script is? And do deltas work nicely with xz files given xdelta3 is patched for it? Allan
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Allan McRae <allan@archlinux.org> wrote:
Xavier wrote:
At some point during this year, I was generating delta for each update that came in. I don't remember if I posted any results here, so just in case, before I throw all this stuff away, I will post the filesize I got here :) Looking quickly at it, it seems a gnome update would see an awesome benefit.
<snip>
Those numbers do indeed look quite nice.
Can you remind me what the status of the repo delta cleanup script is? And do deltas work nicely with xz files given xdelta3 is patched for it?
1) Repo delta cleanup script : I am more or less happy with the basic logic of my patch : http://code.toofishes.net/cgit/xavier/pacman.git/commit/?h=working&id=8a3c54bf3622a4af6e2b45945412fa3e02994e45 The problem is the interface : cleanupdelta [-b <pacman db>] core extra ... : check the listed sync databases Say you have core.db.tar.gz somewhere. You need to extract that to $FOO/sync/core/ then use cleanupdelta -b $FOO core Looks kinda ugly.. Ideally we would be able to run cleanupdelta directly on the tar.gz , but we are not there yet. 2) xz + xdelta3 I stole a script from bbs that I edited slightly and posted to this ML earlier this year. This script allowed to take all packages from the cache directory and generate all deltas it can from that. It was quite easy to take the cache of .gz packages, and convert that to two other caches of .xz and .bz2 packages, and then run this delta script on each cache. It also prints out the ratio delta size / package size for each delta. So iirc, ratio were worse for xz packages than gz, but still alright. But I don' t remember the numbers Anyway, the delta size between two xz packages or two gz packages should be exactly the same, since the delta is made between uncompressed data. I would just expect the meta-info inside the delta to be slightly different because of different filenames and compression. That means the better the package compression is, the less interesting the deltas are (because they automatically get a bigger ratio). Finally, xdelta3 was finally recently patched to support xz : http://code.google.com/p/xdelta/source/detail?r=298# I don't know in which upstream release this belongs. It seems the last release 3.0w was on Oct 25 and the patch on Oct 27 but it will probably be in the next one. Anyway the patch is exactly the same as the one we have in our xdelta3 package currently.
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