Hi, this issue somehow looks familiar but before it gets lost I'll post it here. ATM binutils exists in core and testing. The core package has the base and the testing one the base-devel group. There is also a versioned dep from gcc to it. Now if you try to install both groups (as done in devtools) pacman fails with error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: gcc: requires binutils>=2.22 You can check for yourself by running "pacman -S --needed base base-devel" Greetings, Pierre -- Pierre Schmitz, http://pierre-schmitz.com