On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 20:45:45 +0100, Pierre Schmitz via arch-dev-public wrote:
sorry about the hassle. I did not expect much issues here. I would consider this one of the smoother PHP updates. Unless people ignored warnings by previous PHP versions. I guess that is what mostly happend here. PHP 8 gets more and more strict each version.
After reading the issues on Nextcloud's Github repository I guess we can conclude that they will probably lack behind at least one PHP minor version. This is quite incompatible with the Arch way.
Anyway, let's talk about some options to solve such issues:
- Let's no longer package software that requires older versions of
PHP. Personally I would run such complex software with very specific needs in a Docker container. E.g. Nextcloud even provides an official one.
FYI: As stated earlier by Jelle, our bugtracker isn't currently compatible with PHP8. In case PHP7 is dropped from the repos and no one steps up fixing the flyspray code. The DevOps team will likely just run the the bugtracker in a container of some sort.
- Keep trying to patch upstream packages to keep them working.
- We provide two sets of PHP packages: "php" would always be the
latest stable version and be released no matter what. In addition to this there would be e.g. "php-legacy" packages providing the oldest supported version, currently 7.4. This would be updated to 8.0 in November when 7 is EOL and php-8.2 get's released. The difference to the currently available php7 package will be the lack of a version number in package and binary names. So both packages will be a moving target, but always two versions apart.
I would give option 3 a try. I'd like to get rid of versioned constraints then and reduce the amount of third party modules. While we would end up with more packages we need less testing and will be able to move faster.
On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 10:57 AM David Runge email@example.com wrote:
On 2022-01-21 17:51:17 (+0100), Pierre Schmitz via arch-dev-public wrote:
I just released PHP 8.1 into [extra].
Please also check https://archlinux.org/todo/php-7-retiredment/ so PHP 7 can be dropped soon.
have a nice weekend,
Unfortunately, it likely won't be ;_;
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