April 2009 - Arch-general - lists.archlinux.org

[arch-general] Bug reports for out of date packages?
by Ondřej Kučera 10 Apr '09

10 Apr '09

Hi, Arch's packages usually (almost always) get updated pretty fast and the system "don't create a bug report, just flag the package out of date to get dev's/TU's attention" works fine. But sometimes there exist packages both in community and in extra (I'm not sure about core but maybe even there) that don't get updated even after a significant time from the upstream's release (e. g. swt, amarok, jre or jdk from the nearest past). Shouldn't there be a time limit (two weeks? a month?) after which it would be OK to create a bug report? That way there could be a discussion about why that package hasn't/couldn't be updated and everyone would know where to look for the reasons without having to go through mailing list archives, bbs and so on. Just a thought though. Ondřej -- Cheers, Ondřej Kučera

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[arch-general] Problem with Realtek Ethernet and 2.6.29 Kernel
by Lukas Grässlin 10 Apr '09

10 Apr '09

Hi there, after the update to 2.6.29 the Network Controller of my secondary computer won't work. The problem is that I just have no connection, I can't ping anything. The network interface is listed normaly and has an IP, but it won't work. It's an "Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL81111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 01)" I reinstalled 2.6.28 and it works. More information: on my Main pc I have the same Network controler _BUT_ rev 02 and it works with 2.6.29. Regards, Lukas (sorry if the mail reveices twice but I think my mailer did something wrong ;) )

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[arch-general] old shfs and new kernel
by Brock.Zheng 10 Apr '09

10 Apr '09

I found the package shfs in community is very old. it is for kernel 2.6.22. Anyone can give me the reason of it existence? Dose the uptodate kernel include this module? goodmen

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[arch-general] pacman dependency error
by Abhishek Dasgupta 10 Apr '09

10 Apr '09

While doing pacman -Suy today: resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: intel-dri: requires libdrm>=2.4.5-3 :: libgl: requires libdrm>=2.4.5-3 :: mesa: requires libdrm>=2.4.5-3 Now, I'd used the [testing] repo to update xorg to 1.6 and then disabled it. However pacman -Qi shows libdrm to be at 2.4.6-1 so I don't see why pacman refuses to upgrade. -- Abhishek

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[arch-general] What about unused direct libraries in ELF files?
by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi 10 Apr '09

10 Apr '09

Hi Like my previus message about RPATH in ELF files, I am interested in know opinions of arch-dev-team about ELF files that have direct unused libraries. (I will open a ticket if considered this important in Arch Linux, and gradually helping to fix it for each package that are necessary, like for rpath [#1], also a check for namcap can be implemented like for rpath [#2]) This problem, is in most cases about this issue is the way that libtool or pkg-config is used in the build systems. For example, "pacman" package the pacman binary really only depends on libc.so.6 and libalpm.so.3 all other libs (libdownload.so libarchive.so.2 libacl.so.1 libattr.so.1 libbz2.so.1.0 libz.so.1) are depends of libalpm.so.3 only. Other example are "convert" from imagemagick: It has many unused direct libraries: $ ldd -u -r /usr/bin/convert Unused direct dependencies: /usr/lib/liblcms.so.1 /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3 /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 /usr/lib/libjasper.so.1 /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 /usr/lib/libgs.so.8 /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 /usr/lib/libwmflite-0.2.so.7 /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 /usr/lib/libXt.so.6 /lib/libbz2.so.1.0 /usr/lib/libIlmImf.so.6 /usr/lib/libImath.so.6 /usr/lib/libHalf.so.6 /usr/lib/libIex.so.6 /usr/lib/libIlmThread.so.6 /usr/lib/librsvg-2.so.2 /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2 /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2 /usr/lib/libz.so.1 /usr/lib/libgomp.so.1 /lib/libpthread.so.0 /usr/lib/libltdl.so.7 /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 This not only affect executables, also libraries. So very complicated dependency "graphs" are here. Derived from this, another issue appears: undefined symbols, because in shared libs this behavior are permited (ldd -u -r /usr/lib/libgdbm_compat.so.3.0.0, but this is a documented [a program that uses it also needs a -lgdbm] ) For example now the KDE packages (from Pierre) [#3] when solved all RPATH also solved this issue, with linking flags "--as-needed" and "--no-undefined" Good Luck! [#1] http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13890 - Packaging creation and rpath issues [#2] http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/14049 - [namcap] should check about insecure RPATH in ELF files [#3] http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13965 - [kde] Compile KDE with CMAKE_SKIP_RPATH -- Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi ( djgera ) http://www.djgera.com.ar KeyID: 0x1B8C330D Key fingerprint = 0CAA D5D4 CD85 4434 A219 76ED 39AB 221B 1B8C 330D

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[arch-general] Keyboard repeat in KDE
by Keith 10 Apr '09

10 Apr '09

Leonid wrote: >> Hi, I know I sent this before, but this is a new version of KDE and the problem is becoming really bad. Every once in a while, keyboard repeat will suddenly be unset. I can fix it in systemsettings, only to have it get unset again randomly. Sometimes it will only take a few minutes, sometimes hours. It is very very annoying. Is there anything I can do to fix it? I am running 4.2.2 (not kdemod, vanilla). << +1. It appeared to hit me immediately after either the upgrade to KDE 4.2.2 (or, more likely, I think, the upgrade to xorg-server 1.5.3-5 at 1 AM 4/6). I appear to be having the same problem, and after the same upgrade - to KDE 4.2.2 (not KDEMOD) and xorg-server in extra. Also, my mouse "third-button-wheel" will stop scrolling in a web page, for no reason. It happens so often I'm avoiding using the function - and this effect also seems to be tied to the same time frame. Note also that, in the course of modifying parts of /etc/X11/xorg.conf to get to a usable desktop after this upgrade, I had to (a) remove all my "InputDevice" Sections for a keyboard and two mice (which implicitly sets several possible-gremlin options), and then (b) make a NUMBER of mods, trying to get xorg running stably with a "clean" an Xorg.log.0 as possible. I'm currently trying to figure out how to turn the clues it throws me into a usable conf, but with documentation so blatantly at odds with reality, in at least a couple of interesting places, that's hard. Try 'Option "Accel"' in the Screen Section ('man Xorg', or 'man xorg.conf'). The Xorg (or xorg.conf) man page documents it beautifully; hopefully some day it'll actually OPERATE as documented. This weekend I intend to exercise every known method of automagically generating an xorg.conf for an AMD64-based Arch Linux system, and see if I can either find what I'm missing (in one of them), or manage to get some combination of the suggestions (of all of them) to work. I realise both documentation and KNOWLEDGE are in short supply with the imminent release of xorg-server 1.6, and that it's not supposedly going to be an "easy" or "simple" "migration." I see this as mental prep work... Blue Skies...g

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[arch-general] xf86-video-intel-legacy vs xf86-video-intel
by Damjan Georgievski 10 Apr '09

10 Apr '09

Is it possible to make these packages not conflict each other? So that one could have both installed and alternate when needed? -- damjan

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[arch-general] xinput in ArchLinux
by Damjan Georgievski 09 Apr '09

09 Apr '09

There's a PKGBUILD in AUR of xinput, but I think it needs to be with the other Xorg packages in extra, probably even in the "xorg" group. xinput is a utillity that can dynamically change different properties of the X input devices like the ones that otherwise need to be configured in the xorg.conf file or the HAL fdi file. For example, enabling wheel emulation of a trackpoint. You can also use it to enable or disable input devices. -- damjan

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[arch-general] Keyboard repeat in KDE
by Leonid Grinberg 09 Apr '09

09 Apr '09

Hi, I know I sent this before, but this is a new version of KDE and the problem is becoming really bad. Every once in a while, keyboard repeat will suddenly be unset. I can fix it in systemsettings, only to have it get unset again randomly. Sometimes it will only take a few minutes, sometimes hours. It is very very annoying. Is there anything I can do to fix it? I am running 4.2.2 (not kdemod, vanilla). -- Thanks in advance, Leonid

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel-2.6.29.1-3
by Tobias Powalowski 09 Apr '09

09 Apr '09

Hi Major Upstream Changes: http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges Archlinux Changes: - added aufs2 to kernel package - removed unionfs support Signoffs: - Please test also with binary modules. - Please report functionality of aufs2. Known issues: - ipw2200 seems to have some issues Other devs / users should report how much impact this have? Pierre reported network scanning is not working correct, anyone else with issues? Thanks for your help. Hope to get kernel .29 series to core in next 2 days. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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