[arch-dev-public] base group

[Dan McGee]

On 7/18/07, Roman Kyrylych <roman.kyrylych at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2007/7/11, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin at gmail.com>:
> > On 7/11/07, Dan McGee <dpmcgee at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 7/11/07, Andreas Radke <a.radke at arcor.de> wrote:
> > > > Am Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:11:37 +0300
> > > > schrieb "Roman Kyrylych" <roman.kyrylych at gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi!
> > > > >
> > > > > IIRC this was mentioned some time ago, but I don't remember why it was
> > > > > not implemented.
> > > > > Why don't we have the "base" package group?
> > > > > IMO it would be nice if user would be able to do pacman -S base to get
> > > > > all base packages installed (e.g. in chroot or when installing from
> > > > > another distro).
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > the installer recommends to install every pkg of "base". but it's still
> > > > useful to no install everything if you know what you are doing
> > > > (deselecting not used filesystem tools, only one editor, no pcmcia and
> > > > more). a metapkg isn't needed as i cannot see any point where a user
> > > > later would install it again.
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > >
> > > By far the easiest way to make a chroot would be to have one command, however:
> > > pacman --root <path> --dbpath <path> -S base
> > >
> > > That is where I see the advantage.
> >
> > And what Roman already said in the initial email:
> > "IMO it would be nice if user would be able to do pacman -S base to
> > get all base packages installed (e.g. in chroot or when installing
> > from another distro)."
>
>
> Sooooo.....
> Can someone with access to Current please create dummy base package or group?
> ;-)

I'm currently making some local changes to implement base as a group.
I've thought of one small thing I may want to do, however, and wanted
to get a few opinions before I go ahead with it. This involves
packages in the base category being split into two groups instead of
just one 'base' group:
base: acl, attr, bash, libalpm, pacman, e2fsprogs (this is up for debate), etc.
base-extra: lilo, jfsutils, mdadm, xfsdump, xfsprogs, etc.

Basically the idea is to seperate general utilities that you
absolutely must have from utilities and programs that are a good idea
to have, but not everyone may need. This way you have a bit more
flexibility in choosing what you want to install when using these
groups.

Thoughts?

-Dan