[arch-dev-public] Risky business: udev upgrade
aaronmgriffin at gmail.com
Sat Aug 30 18:40:18 EDT 2008
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Tobias Powalowski <t.powa at gmx.de> wrote:
> Am Sonntag 31 August 2008 schrieb Aaron Griffin:
>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 4:28 AM, Xavier <shiningxc at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin at gmail.com>
>> >> start_udev is still there because people were jackasses and didn't
>> >> update initscripts when they updated udev.... or something.. I can't
>> >> remember the issue, but it was people being foolish and expecting
>> >> their systems to boot fine.
>> >> Is everyone ok with removing it?
>> > A suggestion was made 3 times to simply add a conflict line :
>> > http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/11112#comment31331
>> > This is just a safety against foolish people.
>> Added locally.
>> Copied from arch-general (whoops, replied to the wrong list) regarding
>> the readme file we ship with the udev package
>> > Actually, I think we should remove this file. Reloading rules and all
>> > that is covered by the man pages and any arch specific documentation
>> > should be added to a wiki page so anyone can edit it.
>> > Any issues with removing this? We don't ship custom readme's with any
>> > other packages that I know of.
>> Additionally, do we need the migrate-udev script anymore? I sincerely
>> hope not. Any qualms with killing THAT off too?
> migrate udev creates device nodes which might be necessary, i wouldn't kill
It creates device nodes that the installer also creates. It only
appears useful if someone is installing improperly from an existing
system or from an older ISO. And, hell, if we *really* want to make
sure these devices exist, we should add checks to rc.sysinit to create
them before starting udev, rather than relying on a script to do so.
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