[arch-dev-public] Building mplayer
paul at mattal.com
Tue Jan 22 13:16:10 EST 2008
Thomas Bächler wrote:
> I have been maintaining mplayer for a while now. Unfortunately, during
> my absence mplayer had to be rebuilt by someone else. The x86_64 version
> (built by Eric) is fine, but the i686 (built by someone who doesn't know
> what the "Packager" option in makepkg.conf is for) version is missing
> features (bug #9288).
> The mplayer build system sucks. Seriously, it is the worst idea people
> have ever had, but the guys who are currently maintaining it are proud
> of it (I had the pleasure of arguing with one of them about autotools
> vs. mplayer during a two hour car trip last summer).
> Here is the thing:
> In autotools, you can use --enable-FOO to force configure to enable a
> feature. However, configure still checks if all libraries and headers
> are present and will add the needed options to gcc, or abort if a check
> In mplayer, --enable-FOO forces the build system to enable a feature,
> but also skips all checks and doesn't add any options to the compiler,
> thus making 'make' fail unless you modify Makefiles by hand. This is not
> only unintuitive but also completely inconsistent with the way autotools
> work. The only way to properly enable a feature in mplayer is to put no
> --enable or --disable flag in and hope that configure's autodetection
> detects it properly. And of course you have to check if everything went
> fine after configure finished by reading the output summary. I don't
> have to tell you that this is very distributior-unfriendly.
> Since there is no way to force mplayer's configure to abort if something
> we want is missing, we must have the necessary makedepends listed -
> which we don't, as they are not easy to determine. The only way to
> properly build mplayer is to watch everything it does carefully and
> abort if something is wrong.
> For a while, a "we need clean build chroots so that our packages are not
> corrupted" attitude has spread, and this is exactly what broke mplayer
> (I have no idea which makedepend may be missing though).
> So please, unless you know exactly what you are doing and have much time
> to check everything, don't build mplayer!
Just to point out the yin and yang: The x264 upgrade in [testing]
broke mplayer, since there was an .so bump.
One of the things I did not do as well as I should was to publicize
that fact and put up a todo list. I eventually did that, but
certainly later than would have been advisable.
Once that happened, Jason rebuilt mplayer. It was a good move, it
was completely broken in [testing] for a while, and I know his
intentions were to get things up and going again for people whose
stuff was broken.
These packages sat in [testing] for a LONG time. I did that to give
us a really rigorous trial period before rolling everything out. I
monitored bug reports and was careful to try and figure out the
effects of the new rebuilds. I can only assume folks who are having
problems now weren't using them then.
Then we released the packages to [extra] and now bugs are being found.
Aside from more up-front notification about package dependencies,
which I am instituting as part of my process from now on, I think
the process worked as well as it could here. I'm not sure what else
we could do differently except maybe to document in a README in the
PKGBUILD directory in CVS any quirks about a package that would
cause a chroot build not to work, to drop as breadcrumbs to someone
who might find themselves rebuilding a package they don't know much
Another possibility would be to require a sign-off from the
maintainer if a non-maintainer builds the package, before rolling
out to [extra] or [core]. This would guarantee that the package had
the blessing of the person who knows the most about the package
before it actually goes to the main repos.
Anyone have any other ideas of how we could have navigated this better?
P.S. Feeling your pain about the mplayer build system! Building
eclipse is the largest nightmare I've had to deal with, and it's
pretty bad, too.
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