[arch-dev-public] Offline for uncertain time.
ganja.guru.x64 at gmail.com
Wed Mar 26 23:11:38 EDT 2008
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 3:54 AM, Tobias Powalowski <t.powa at gmx.de> wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 schrieb Pierre Schmitz:
> Beside from the above,
> Depends on how long it takes that some people come back to a sane way in
> treating each other persons.
> People just speaking about principels,
> don't know why things might be good and just talk about plain not patched
> vanilla stuff, without even thinking what the result would be.
> I never saw someone, hey your kernel blowed my machine away, because you added
> patch xyz.
> Good Hardware support seems not to be needed, because all needs to be done
> upstream and/or praised by the arch overlords, that don't do anything to make
> the kernel better, just ranting about why you do that etc.
> I remember the discussion about adding squashfs and the other filesystems,
> i rejected to add it first i was flamed for it, because you needed them to do
> your holy development work.
> Now im flamed for every little patch, which helps some people to get their
> hardware work properly.
> Luckily my hardware is supported by the normal kernel modules, you will hit
> others with not supporting their hardware, which would be quite easy to
> achive sometimes and doesn't hurt users that don't have the hardware.
> You will lose user friendlyness, but you don't care about them anyway, and if
> your system doesn't work you can fix it yourself, this is your non diplomatic
> interpretation of the so called ARCH WAY.
> I can spend my free time on better tasks, instead of listening to your rants
> and mostly unproductive criticism all the time, do it better or let the
> people that know how to handle this important part of a distro do their work.
> About your treatment with the ISOs I don't want to say much,
> slapping someone in the face is nice, thanks for this.
> </rant off>
> Have fun,
> (you should really link the Frustration thread from dev ml to normal general
> mailinglist to keep some fun for the users ;) too )
> I hope things change to a better place, with respect to each other.
> love, peace and penguins
> Tobias Powalowski
> Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa)
> tpowa at archlinux.org
Though I'm not actively maintaining packages, I understand that Arch
is going through a difficult time now reading the ML. I have faith in
this community though, and I'm sure that once all the initial finger
pointing is done (everyone's human :-) , we will work together to
resolve whatever issues we have with each other and the "Arch Way ™".
I've always admired your skill, and hope you'll be back soon. For the
record, I like the way you maintain the kernel :), and I think
hardware support out of the box is awesome. And as for other issues
regarding the "Arch Way ™", I think they're relatively small and will
get resolved soon.
I wish you the best for your marriage. I'll contact you a few years
into the future when its time for me to get married to concoct a
formula with your pharmaceutical skills to make the girl I marry like
Linux too :) (or at least one that makes her projectile vomit if she
Dr. Varun Acharya
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