[arch-dev-public] install scripts in core

Aaron Griffin aaronmgriffin at gmail.com
Mon Feb 2 12:24:19 EST 2009

On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Allan McRae <allan at archlinux.org> wrote:
> Dan McGee wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Allan McRae <allan at archlinux.org> wrote:
>>> Thomas Bächler wrote:
>>>> Allan McRae schrieb:
>>>>> fakeroot
>>>>>  echo (coreutils)
>>>> echo is a shell builtin, /bin/echo will never be used.
>>>> <snip>
>>>> As I said, echo is a shell builtin, and unless we call /bin/echo
>>>> explicitly, the builtin will be used (it's not only a builtin in bash,
>>>> but
>>>> also dash, so we should be fine). We could replace 'cat XYZ | command'
>>>> with
>>>> 'command < XYZ'.
>>>>> The install scripts for lilo and vi also fail if bash is not installed
>>>>> (for some unknown reason).  Lilo is just and old style "/bin/true"
>>>>> script so
>>>>> is easily fixed but I do not understand these two issues...
>>>> No idea here too, maybe one of the commands calls /bin/sh or so. Making
>>>> lilo and vi depend on "sh" or so is okay IMO.
>>> The echo stuff is just as weird as what is happening with vi and lilo.
>>>  But
>>> I can replicate the for errors the packages using echo with both
>>> makchrootpkg and "pacman -Sr <root> pkg".  Installing bash before these
>>> packages fixes the issue (dash does not).   Anyone know what is causing
>>> this?
>> Yes- /bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/bash, in the bash package. dash
>> cannot install this symlink as it would obviously conflict (although
>> if Ubuntu can do it...). Pacman simply shells out to /bin/sh, so if
>> you create the relevant symlink, things will just work with dash as
>> well.
> OK, that explains why dash does not help, but why are those install scripts
> failing?  Are you saying that the system needs bash installed before it can
> run post_install scripts?  More directly to the issue, why do post_install
> scripts with "echo" in them fail if bash is not installed when others seem
> to run fine (or at least do not report an error)?

The way pacman calls the scriptlets, it actually uses the shell from
the _parent_ system. I know this for a fact, because Dan and I
investigated, added checks for bash in the chroot, then realized it
didn't matter and reverted it.

Are you _sure_ it's bash failing like you suspect? What happens if you
just install vi and library deps in a chroot and try to run things

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