[arch-dev-public] nilfs-utils moving in core

Dieter Plaetinck dieter at plaetinck.be
Tue Dec 7 09:03:28 EST 2010

On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 14:45:45 +0100
Thomas Bächler <thomas at archlinux.org> wrote:

> Am 07.12.2010 14:40, schrieb Ionuț Bîru:
> > Hi,
> > i come across https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/20261 and i see Dieter
> > added support in aif for it but it needs to be added in core to
> > include it on the cd.
> That is not true. Packages don't have to be in core to be included in
> the installation environment.

We (or at least I) meant: including the packages in the included core
repo on core images.  So that if people install their system on a nilfs
filesystem, they can install the nilfs-utils package too.
I don't think we want situations where people use a core image, install
nilfs, but aif can't install nilfs-utils.
On the other hand, I just noticed dosfstools is in extra, whereas aif
allows you to install on vfat.  This confuses me.

Isn't the general rule that if you can install on a foo-filesystem, you
should install foo-utils as well? so that at least your system
doesn't break when it needs to run fsck.foo after x mounts.

> > Don't know why nobody assigned that bug to me since i'm the
> > maintainer of nilfs-utils even since it was in community.
> > 
> > What do you think? Is it worth adding it? It must be in base group?
> How many people use nilfs? I doubt very many. If you want to add
> another package to your list that nobody will sign off on, I don't
> object (even xfsutils and jfsutils rarely get signoffs, and those are
> popular file systems compared to nilfs).

good point. is jfs really popular? at this point i know very few people
who use nilfs, but that should change as it should be a great FS for


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