[arch-dev-public] [RFC] Add Wayland/Weston

Tom Gundersen teg at jklm.no
Fri Feb 8 10:44:44 EST 2013

On Feb 8, 2013 2:56 PM, "Jan de Groot" <jan at jgc.homeip.net> wrote:
> On vr, 2013-02-08 at 10:20 +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote:
> > I appreciate your effort and have no objection against adding Wayland.
> >
> > However, to limit people's enthusiasm about this, I just want to remark
> > that having Wayland installed now is not incredibly useful: Weston is
> > AFAIK the only compositor available at this time, and it is, as you
> > mention, a demo (there was talk of some tiling WM being ported to
> > Wayland, I forgot the name). Also you'll use XWayland most of the time.
> >
> > When Qt5 gets released and Qt4 applications are ported (which will
> > likely happen for all Qt4 applications), there'll be at least many
> > applications that can use Wayland natively. When KDE is ported to Qt5,
> > we'll also get kwin as a more feature-rich Wayland compositor.
> >
> > I didn't read about the GTK situation yet, but I guess GTK3 has Wayland
> > support already.
> This is my main concern for Wayland at this moment. Though it looks cool
> to support new technology and having released versions of Wayland with
> 1.x versioning, I doubt there's much use for it at this moment. Running
> X inside of wayland is a nice feature for apps that aren't ported yet,
> but if you only run apps that aren't ported yet, there's no use for
> Wayland at the moment.

Thomas and Jan are right, Wayland does not provide much at the moment.

However, I still think it makes a lot of sense to ship it even now,
provided it has no negative effects on the non-wayland usecase, and it does
not entail too much work. It would at least make life simpler for
devs/testers of wayland/weston/kwin and friends.



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