[arch-dev-public] Cyclic dependencies between systemd and util-linux

Tobias Powalowski tobias.powalowski at googlemail.com
Wed Mar 12 12:21:20 EDT 2014

Am 12.03.2014 06:32, schrieb Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi:
> On 02/24/2014 03:56 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote:
>> Right now, we have a problem with cyclic dependencies in core: systemd
>> requires libblkid and libuuid (systemd-udevd) and util-linux requires
>> libudev (findmnt, and soon uuidd [1]).
>> I don't like this situation and currently it is revoled by adding
>> systemd as optdepend to util-linux. This has the side effect that in a
>> chroot with only certain packages installed, one has to explicitly
>> install systemd to get findmnt working. Since I've run into this
>> situation and cyclic deps are bad, I propose the following:
>> Split both util-linux and systemd into libutil-linux/util-linux and
>> libsystemd/systemd. Then we could have both util-linux and systemd
>> depend on both libsystemd and libutil-linux.
>> [1] http://www.spinics.net/lists/util-linux-ng/msg08699.html
> We also have another set when installing {base} group:
> warning: util-linux will be installed before its coreutils dependency
> warning: util-linux will be installed before its pam dependency
> warning: shadow will be installed before its pam dependency
New depends introduce error during base installation,
libutil-linux needs coreutils first else no install is found.

I cannot get coreutils installed before util-linux so this is really


Tobias Powalowski
Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa)
tpowa at archlinux.org

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