[arch-dev-public] Proposal: minimal base system

Bruno Pagani bruno.n.pagani at gmail.com
Mon Jan 21 23:41:01 UTC 2019


Le 22/01/2019 à 00:23, Allan McRae via arch-dev-public a écrit :
> On 22/1/19 8:03 am, Levente Polyak via arch-dev-public wrote:
>> Everything that won’t be part of base-system needs to be added as a
>> dependency to all requiring packages; alternatively don't omit any first
>> level runtime dependencies at all.
>>
>> This package should only depend on strictly required explicit packages
>> to get a working minimal Arch Linux system.
>>
>> The proposed end result is:
>> - base: convenient helper group for quickly getting a working system
>>   when installing, must include the new base-system package
>> - base-system: package defining the minimum dependencies for a working
>>   base runtime
> I think the proposal is OK.  I'm not comfortable with our line about
> base group packages being required given how many of them I don't have
> installed.
>
> However...  I don't like idea of the base group and base-system package
> existing together.  You definition of what base-system should be is much
> the same as what the base group was defined to be.  What package
> justifies itself in the base group, but would not be in base-system?  It
> seems we would have two very similar things where one would do.
>
> Allan

In the proposal, base would really just be a convenient helper for e.g.
beginners installing their system, so they could get all tools that are
often used during install (e.g. cryptsetup, lvm2, various FS/network
tools, etc.) or (POSIX) tools people coming from other distros would
expect to be here by default (man pages, nano/vi…) but that are
interactive ones and thus not really required for operating.

Anyone knowing their stuff could just install base-system + what they
actually need (e.g., I would install cryptsetup and vim, and not care
about netctl, xfsprogs or lvm2).

Does that make sense to you?

Bruno


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