[arch-general] Anyway to revert back to KDE 3.5.9? (Don't Panic)

w9ya at qrparci.net w9ya at qrparci.net
Sun Aug 10 20:38:59 EDT 2008


Hey gang;

Some boring comments at the end, as a response:

> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 02:52:30 pm Shridhar Daithankar wrote:
>> On Saturday 09 August 2008 20:38:27 Attila wrote:
>> > Or to say it other words: The packages be so good as possible and
>> there is nothing what can be done more or better. But for me kde
>> user and fan of the kicker the actual panel is more a joke than
>> something what i want to use.
>>
>> Could you please elaborate? I am curious to know what is so wrong.
>>
>> Except for an applet for system activity monitor, I don't miss
>> anything on panel. Although it took over couple of days to get back
>> back to where I was with KDE3.5.9.
>
>
> I've found a number of little annoying things, like icons you've put on
> to the  menu bars, don't seem to 'stick' once the system is re-started.
>
> Richard



Actually I view KDE as a working environment. So it is not *just* how does
kicker less of a useful tool and a fufiling experience to use, but ALL of
the items that make up the KDE environment.

As such this upgrade has a been a poor experience without much redeeming
to speak for itself at this point in time, as there has been significant
feature and capability regression when comparing kde3 and kde4 .

Yes I am well aware that things may improve to make kde4 not only better
but eventually perhaps even a better environment. But it is hardly that
now. i.e. Pick just about any of the pieces and try something you use to
do. Like printer management, window-shading, auto-updating in the default
file-manager (now dolphin,), proper power-system management... NONE of
that is working, let alone correctly. Restarting dolphin to see the file
changes is just plain sad. And these are just a few of the MANY examples
available.

So, if someone were to ask me, (*and yes I DO realize that no one is
asking me,) I would say that arch would have been better served to have
planned for some users wanting to continue to use the older kde instead of
the forced upgrade to kde4. Afterall those following the kde4 upgrade KNEW
about the severe feature regression BEFORE taking kde4 out of the testing
repo.

And YEAH, I am also aware of how to prevent this upgrading, but after the
fact or sufficient warning was NOT part of the pacman -Syu procedure
either that there was a pending major upgrade OR that there was a
significant file relocation of key startup files. There was *also* no
established procedure for doing a retro-grade (fix), nor even the above
mentioned parallel kde3 and 4 inthe extra repo. And all of these *were*
items that could have been easily done and *were* predictably needed.

Anyways, as a power user of KDE, I now have less of a feature set, *AND*
more buggy operation of what is left. IS this a complaint ? Nope, just an
observation, and one that is response to those who have been asking for
some clarification.

Very best regards;

Bob Finch

Liviu Librescu - În veci pomenirea lui.
(May his memory be eternal.)





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