[arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Cleaning up the base group

Alessio Bolognino themolok.ml at gmail.com
Sat Aug 30 12:19:05 EDT 2008


On Sat 2008-08-30 17:52, Karolina Lindqvist wrote:
> lördagen den 30 augusti 2008 skrev Alessio Bolognino:
> 
> > > This might end up in a flamwar, but if we have to remove one editor I
> > > would vote vor vim and keep nano. [... more nonsense ]
> >
> >                           vvvvvvvvv
> >                         *************
> > ======================> *   THIS    * <================================
> > ======================> *    IS     * <================================
> > ======================> *  MADNESS! * <================================
> >                         *************
> >                           ^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > :%s/Pierre Schmitz/Wuss Infidel/g
> > :wq!
> 
> Please not vim, since if you don't know vim, you very fast get stuck. I just 
> installed and tried vim, and first it beeped on any key pressed. Then somehow 
> it stopped, and I could not exit instead. I tried CTRL-C CTRL-C...., and it 
> said ":quit to exit", but it did not work either. So "killall vim" was the 
> way to exit. Yes, madness is the right word.
> 
> nano is more logical. Everything you type inserts, and i has a menu at the 
> bottom always. So you can figure out he first time.
> 
> vim is a speciality editor, since you need to know it to use it. emacs is 
> similar there. Both require you to learn it to do even simple things. And 
> when installing a system, you need something so that you can edit the files 
> to get started. For a novice there should be an editor that is 
> self-explanatory, and it appears that nano can work there.
> 
> But then I don't care since I anyway do:
> pacman -Rs vim nano

Well, I was just trolling; it's very likely that both nano and vi(m)
will stay in base, so this discussion doesn't make sense, but vi is not
just "an editor", it's the standard UNIX editor.

-- 
Alessio (molok) Bolognino

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