[arch-general] xterm and xorg-apps

[Grigorios Bouzakis]

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Andrew Przepioski
<aprzepioski at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/18/09, Andrew Przepioski <aprzepioski at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2/18/09, Grigorios Bouzakis <grbzks at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 01:19:18PM -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Andrew Przepioski
>>>> <aprzepioski at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > To me, when I was googling about xterm trying to
>>>> > determine why xorg-apps was included, what feature is included with
>>>> > xterm that makes it need xorg-apps, I couldn't find anything
>>>>
>>>> Might be helpful to use namcap in cases like this (gmail will probably
>>>> wrap the output below). Though in the case of xterm, it doesn't help
>>>> us - svn logs would be the next best bet
>>>>
>>>> $ namcap -i /var/cache/pacman/pkg/xterm-241-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
>>>> xterm      E: Dependency detected and not included (libxmu) from files
>>>> ['usr/bin/xterm']
>>>> xterm      E: Dependency detected and not included (bash) from files
>>>> ['usr/bin/koi8rxterm', 'usr/bin/uxterm']
>>>> xterm      W: Dependency included and not needed (libxaw)
>>>> xterm      W: Dependency included but already satisfied (ncurses)
>>>> xterm      W: Dependency included and not needed (xorg-apps)
>>>> xterm      I: Script link detected (bash) in file
>>>> ['usr/bin/koi8rxterm', 'usr/bin/uxterm']
>>>> xterm      I: File ['usr/bin/xterm'] link-level dependence on libxmu
>>>> xterm      I: File ['usr/bin/xterm', 'usr/bin/resize'] link-level
>>>> dependence on ncurses
>>>> xterm      I: File ['usr/bin/xterm', 'usr/bin/resize'] link-level
>>>> dependence on glibc
>>>> xterm      I: File ['usr/bin/xterm'] link-level dependence on libx11
>>>> xterm      I: File ['usr/bin/xterm'] link-level dependence on fontconfig
>>>> xterm      I: File ['usr/bin/xterm'] link-level dependence on libice
>>>> xterm      I: File ['usr/bin/xterm'] link-level dependence on libxt
>>>> xterm      I: File ['usr/bin/xterm'] link-level dependence on libxft
>>>> xterm      I: File ['usr/bin/koi8rxterm', 'usr/bin/uxterm'] link-level
>>>> dependence on bash
>>>> xterm      I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence
>>>> (zlib)
>>>> xterm      I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence
>>>> (expat)
>>>> xterm      I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence
>>>> (libxcb)
>>>> xterm      I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence
>>>> (inputproto)
>>>> xterm      I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence
>>>> (libxau)
>>>> xterm      I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence
>>>> (tzdata)
>>>> xterm      I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence
>>>> (libxdmcp)
>>>> xterm      I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence
>>>> (renderproto)
>>>> xterm      I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence
>>>> (glibc)
>>>> xterm      I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence
>>>> (fontconfig)
>>>> xterm      I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence
>>>> (libice)
>>>> xterm      I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence
>>>> (libxt)
>>>> xterm      I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence
>>>> (libxext)
>>>> xterm      I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence
>>>> (kbproto)
>>>> xterm      I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence
>>>> (xextproto)
>>>> xterm      I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence
>>>> (ncurses)
>>>> xterm      I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence
>>>> (xproto)
>>>> xterm      I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence
>>>> (xcb-proto)
>>>> xterm      I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence
>>>> (readline)
>>>> xterm      I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence
>>>> (kernel-headers)
>>>> xterm      I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence
>>>> (freetype2)
>>>> xterm      I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence
>>>> (libx11)
>>>> xterm      I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence
>>>> (e2fsprogs)
>>>> xterm      I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence
>>>> (libxrender)
>>>> xterm      I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence
>>>> (libsm)
>>>> xterm      I: Depends as namcap sees them: depends=(libxmu bash libxft)
>>>> xterm      E: Missing license
>>>
>>> See my comments on http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/7781
>>> I dont know if google returns results like these, but the bug tracker
>>> search does if you look for xorg-apps, or xterm.
>>> xorg-apps were a dependency for xterm before 230, even if it was uneeded,
>>> it is also one today.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Greg
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, I bumped into link when I was searching, but it doesn't mention
>> anywhere exactly why xorg-apps is needed for xterm. From what I can
>> see, it just mentions at one part that xorg-apps is a dependency of
>> xterm and would automatically come with it.
>>
>> "Note: "xorg-apps" will be automatically installed as a dependency of
>> "xterm", but I assume that implicitly relying on this sub-dependency
>> to continue to exist in the future would be less preferable than
>> listing it explicitly."
>>
>
> Ah! My bad! I didn't see it down there. :\
>

If you dont like the dependency that much, or need space or whatever and dont
want to build your own package, you can pacman -Rd xorg-apps. xterm doesnt
need xmessage. Only koi8xterm does.

-- 
Greg