[arch-general] usable browser?

[Raghavendra Prabhu]

I use Opera-10 and it works fine. I don't get any updates stuff(unless I
manually update) and I don't know what popups you are talking about(even
after you can block them for sites).Regarding compatibility, Opera now works
with 99% of the sites. Yes, with some sites it breaks then you can use
chrome for example for those sites.
What I liked most about opera is per site configuration flexibility.(I block
flash on all sites except sites like youtube).     Regarding firefox - clear
your cache,history -- any browser with deep history(even chrome - check
their bugs) will come to a crawl.

And regarding dbus and all - they don't slow your system.  And when you are
on battery on mobile/laptop stop the dbus daemon :) , nothing
breaks(assuming you are not running compiz, fancy gui stuff et.al. which you
shouldnt when on battery)

One more thing - regarding chrome - dont store any serious passwords on it
yet...  this is because passwords are stored in PLAIN TEXT(unlike
firefox/opera) in the SQLite database(under ~/.config/google-chrome/Web\
Data) . I asked the chromium devs - they said it will be fixed in next
milestone.

Chrome, I think, with same webkit rendering will overshadow following two
browsers,
Midori .
Arora


On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Arvid Picciani <aep at exys.org> wrote:

> thank's for the first serious response...
>
>
> Rogutės Sparnuotos wrote:
>
>  With what you wrote above - no, no options.
>>
>> It sounds like you dump software as soon as you encounter any annoyance.
>>
>
> point, sadly the annoyances usually come in large bulk as feature
> "improvements" together with crucial updates, i actually want. Hence i
> figured i want a browsers that is NOT based on the idea to make everything
> WORSE.
>
>
>  Wouldn't it be wiser to workaround them, since annoyances (or small bugs)
>> are always part of everything?
>>
>
> i do that up so some degree where the workaround consumes more time then
> stealing my girlfriends mac. Ie the ff workaround was avarage 1 day fixing
> time each update since they managed to introduce workarounds for my
> workarounds.
>
>
>  I guess writing a browser could teach one
>> to live with bugs...
>>
>
> yeah..
>
>
>  I am sure you can disable those popups in opera (or stay with 9.64 for the
>> time being, if you like opera).
>>
>
> yeah thats unfortunately just one minor nuisance out of so many "features"
> they add. and the older versions cant render web 2.0 crap. same lemma.
>

Again what popups?


> Also since i used chrome i got spoiled by its simplicity (which they
> managed to remove now in the latest version by adding more of those all so
> useful "features").
>
>
>
>  What kind of I/O activity do you see with Firefox?
>>
>
> disk i/o. It's flush() in a busy loop, says kernel wakup debuging mode.
> well my kernel  debugging skills are limited.
> i solved it by sticking .mozilla on a ram disk. that worked until the next
> memory leak bug, then kswapd died out the disk. I tried then mounting
> .mozilla to vaporspace but it would just make ff crash constantly, so i gave
> up.
>
>
> How do you measure it?
>
> iotop. powertop. strace.
>
>
>  I don't see any problems on my side.
>>
>
> no one does. the bug got rejected as "can't reproduce". which propably
> means "buy a bigger disk faggot. everyone nowadays runs kde/vista/whatever"
> bleh...
>
> ff always used an entire core, which i care less about because i have
> another, but since i use chrome i got used to leaving my browser open.
>
> oh did i mention firefox now depends on dbus?
> Call me whatever you want to, but i actively refuse to run any software
> that starts user space dameons that starts user space dameons that start  a
> power consuming poll loop on my bluetooth device until either laptop or my
> mobile phone die.
>
> IgnorePkg   = dbus dbus-core gconf dbus-glib
>
> solves ALOT of power and network related problems.
> Also it helps me choosing good software by ruling those out that think they
> need to do _everything_ when i just wanted _one thing_.
>
>
>
>  What sites were incorrectly rendered with webkit?
>>
>
> ebay.de did. now it works. dunno who fixed it.
> but you got a point there, it's been a while since i tried webkit. maybe it
> improved significantly after chrome opensource'd. I'll try one of these
> webking thingies again. suggestions?  um actually i know, uzbl. will report
> back if it still sucks as much as it did a few months ago.
>
>
>  Also, there's dillo. Small and fast, but no CSS floats, no javascript.
>>
>
> the bad part is actually no javascript. since most sites are now unusable
> without.  ( and with, but meh)
>
>
> --
> Arvid
> Asgaard Technologies
>