[arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

[David C. Rankin]

On 04/20/2010 10:37 AM, Ananda Samaddar wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:40:27 +0200
> Thomas Haider <t.haider at vcnc.org> wrote:
> 
>> Am Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:34:21 +0100
>> schrieb Ananda Samaddar <ananda at samaddar.co.uk>:
>>
>>> Is there some reason that the gstreamer good plugins set needs a
>>> whole load of GNOME crap?
>>>
>>> http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/gstreamer0.10-good-plugins/
>>>
>>> I've recently switched to XFCE and I'd like to avoid GNOME
>>> dependencies.  Is it possible to recompile from abs without all
>>> these dependencies?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> Ananda
>>
>> This is of course possible, the gstreamer ./configure script allows to
>> disable most of the dependency-heavy features. ./configure --help list
>> all possibilities. This for example is the configuration i use:
>>
>>   ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var \
>>     --disable-static --enable-experimental \
>>     --disable-schemas-install \
>> 	--disable-gconf \
>> 	--disable-hal \
>> 	--disable-dv1394 \
>> 	--disable-pulse \
>> 	--disable-esd \
>> 	--disable-esdtest \
>> 	--disable-sunaudio \
>> 	--disable-osx_audio \
>> 	--disable-osx_video \
>> 	--disable-flac \
>> 	--disable-gst_v4l2 \
>>     --with-package-name="GStreamer Good Plugins (Archlinux)" \
>>     --with-package-origin="http://www.archlinux.org/" || return 1
> 
> Thanks for that, I'm created a custom PKGBUILD that removes all the
> GNOME crap, I'm going to upload it to the AUR when it's done.
> 
> Ananda
> 
> 

You know,

	It still amazes me how people will take the position that all associated with
Gnome must be 'crap'. No don't get me wrong, I have no arguments with your basic
complaint that unnecessary dependencies need not be included with the gstreamer
packages. In fact, I agree.

	However, that notwithstanding, the general premise asserted in the comment
"GNOME crap" is just flat wrong. Now I was a KDE guy, did a lot of beta work
with KDE4 and also enjoy enlightenment, the 'boxtops', windowmaker and recently
Gnome. From first-hand experience, I can tell you gnome is not crap. It is a
solid desktop built on the metacity wm that does a great many things right and a
handful of things I would do differently if I wrote desktops and wm's, but on
balance is an excellent desktop.

	Not to mention, it is just down right gorgeous:

(152k)
http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/img/ss/gnome/BlueNightII.scaled.jpg

	Oh well, at least the gstreamer packages stripped of unnecessary dependencies
will be a great addition to AUR. Thank you for that. But no need to deride a
desktop just because whoever packaged it last included a few unneeded
dependencies :p


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