[arch-general] Better NILFS2 Support

[Tobias Powalowski]

Am Sonntag 01 August 2010 schrieb Dan McGee:
> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:30
AM, Tobias Powalowski <t.powa at gmx.de> wrote:
> > Am Sonntag 01 August 2010
schrieb Dieter Plaetinck:
> >> On Sun, 1 Aug 2010
> > 
> > 16:46:33 +0200
>
> 
> >> Heiko Baums <lists at baums-on-web.de> wrote:
> >> > I don't
> > 
> >
think that nilfs-utils should be moved to the base group. I
> > 
> >> >
agree with
> > 
> > moving it to [core] but not to base, because base is
> >

> >> > assumed to be
> > 
> > installed on every computer and packages in
the base
> > 
> >> > group are usually
> > 
> > not listed in the depends
array of a PKGBUILD.
> > 
> >> > On the contrary I
> > 
> > think there
could be some other file system tools
> > 
> >> > like jfsutils, lvm2
> > 
>
> and xfsprogs be removed from the base group (not
> > 
> >> > from
[core]).
> >> 
> >> I
> > 
> > think this explanation makes sense.  I just
found this back:
> > 
> >
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/User:Allan/Base_Cleanup
> > 
> >> So
indeed, it
> > 
> > seems like the goal is to remove all non-essential
things
> > 
> >> (reiserfs, xfs,
> > 
> > ..) from base.
> > 
> >> > They
probably should be automatically installed if a
> > 
> > partition is
> > 
>
>> > formatted with one of these filesystems by AIF. But usually
> > 
> >
people who
> > 
> >> > are using these filesystems know what they are doing
and know
> > 
> > that
> > 
> >> > they have to select these packages for
installation.
> >> 
> >> Actually
> > 
> > it's fairly trivial to
"preselect" those packagas based on the
> > 
> >> filesystems
> > 
> > used
during the filesystem step.  I believe some of it is
> > 
> >> already
> >

> > implemented in aif.
> > 
> >> Dieter
> > 
> > My 2 cents about nilfs,
>
> I have added it to
> > archboot environment some time ago.
> > To
integrate it into an installer it is
> > plain not usable, because the
kernel doesn't know it.
> > All usual filesystem
> > utilities like blkid
etc. don't recognize it.
> > Sure it will be an optional
> > filesystem in
the future, but it should be supported by the kernel and
> > major
filesystem and core utiltities in a sane way.
> 
> Except that I've seen it
running on his root partition on a booting
> laptop without any of these
problems you speak of...
> 
> -Dan
Yes sure i believe it works, my concerns
are more that the main tools just don't support it, which makes it imho more
complicated to implement the installation support.

greetings
tpowa
--

Tobias Powalowski
Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer
(tpowa)
http://www.archlinux.org
tpowa at archlinux.org
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