[arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds

Brendan Long korin43 at gmail.com
Mon Feb 8 19:06:07 EST 2010


On 02/08/2010 04:48 PM, Jan de Groot wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 13:37 -0700, Brendan Long wrote:
>    
>> Couldn't the piecemeal update problem be fixed by just putting
>> version
>> numbers in the depends() section in each updated package, so for the
>> libpng rebuild for example, depends(... libpng>=#.#)? It would fix
>> the
>> problem in the most obvious/arch-like way.
>>      
> Some of us do that, so what happens next:
>
> very-old-system# pacman -Sy firefox
>
> pacman downloads new repo db, checks for firefox and downloads all the
> versioned dependencies. The user can run firefox fine now, but
> everything else on the system is broken because it wasn't updated for
> the new libpng.
>
> Now this can be caught by using depends=('libpng>=1.4.0'
> 'libpng<1.5.0'), but what if upstream decides to fuck up the ABI in a
> release and bump soname in the middle of the 1.4 branch? I don't expect
> libpng to do that, but there's examples of others around. We can never
> be sure that the next incompatible version will be 1.5.0.
>
>
>    
But wouldn't the optimal solution be doing the depends correctly on 
every package, so when your really slow user tries to update Firefox, it 
correctly informs them that they need to update everything to do that?


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