[arch-general] [arch-dev-public] dropping flashplugin x86_64

[Caleb Cushing]

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Heiko Baums <lists at baums-on-web.de> wrote:
>
> Let me think. I'm using open source (Linux) since many years now.
> Everything I needed was supported and maintained during all the years.
> If a tool isn't maintained anymore then there's a fork or a usually
> better alternative which is maintained.
>
> Closed source? Windows? Windows 98? Windows NT? Windows XP in the near
> future? Flash for x86_64? Several anti-virus software for x86_64?
> Zattoo for x86_64? Everything is unsupported or stopped getting
> supported. Flash for x86_64 was supported only for a short while (about
> 1 or 2 years?) anyway.

kde1,2,3 aren't maintained anymore this saying windows nt, 98, xp is
just about the same. kde4 is very similar in how vista has gone into
7. don't confused unsupported with we released a new version and
aren't supporting the previous. open source actually supports it's old
versions a lot less in most cases. I only know 2 projects with really
long term support: postgres (5 years now) and the kernel (only certain
versions). wtf is zattoo (don't answer I don't care). reason AV's
don't have 64-bit support is windows is their only serious market and
windows hasn't had serious 64-bit support.

> So what is getting better and longer supported? Open source or closed
> source?
>
> "... we're never used as a testbed ..."
>
> Somehow it sounds as if you were from Adobe.

don't take this out of context. I was referring to kde 4.0 where all
the distro's decided to roll it out when kde explicitly said 'this is
a developer release only'.

>> it depends... I doubt many/any companies will do a full switch without
>> at least 50% market share. Which IE still holds, (flash has something
>> like 99% market share). Certainly it's not going away on youtube.
>
> I doubt that. Why has Flash a market share like 99%? Only because
> portals like Youtube are using this and everyone wants to watch their
> videos. As soon as Youtube and other video portals switch to HTML5
> Flash's market share will rapidly decrease.

right because that's the only flash site people use? I doubt hulu is
going to switch (and it never worked on 64-bit flash maybe that's why
adobe is (according to them) overhauling 64-bit flash), pandora could
have been implemented in js when it came out, they chose flash. I
believe flash had that market share when youtube was in its infancy
and maybe even earlier.

> I doubt that it will take too long until IE will adopt webm. And don't
> overvalue IE. IE isn't as important as it was some years ago.

yes it's becoming less important, and their's certainly a push to kill
IE6. I don't think that's going to matter to what I said though.

-- 
Caleb Cushing

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