[arch-general] [arch-dev-public] dropping flashplugin x86_64

[Heiko Baums]

Am Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:26:57 -0400
schrieb Caleb Cushing <xenoterracide at gmail.com>:

> kde1,2,3 aren't maintained anymore this saying windows nt, 98, xp is
> just about the same. kde4 is very similar in how vista has gone into
> 7. don't confused unsupported with we released a new version and
> aren't supporting the previous.

I don't confuse anything. KDE 1, 2 and 3 have been regular updates. KDE
4 is quite different and can't be seen as a usual update. KDE 3 is btw.
still maintained by the Trinity project
(http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net) and updated to 3.5.11. As I said,
if an open source software isn't maintained anymore, it usually get's
forked or maintained by someone else or replaced by a usually better
alternative.

Window 98, NT, XT, Vista, 7 are also not real updates and not just a
release of a new version, because first they are all completely
different and not generally compatible (Windows Vista Software doesn't
run on Windows 98 and probably vice versa) and second you need to pay
for all of these "updates". So you can't compare those with regular
updates.

> open source actually supports it's old
> versions a lot less in most cases. I only know 2 projects with really
> long term support: postgres (5 years now) and the kernel (only certain
> versions).

Why should old versions be supported? They are updated and maintained.
And these are real updates (releases of new versions). So this software
is maintained and supported. postgres is btw. also updated several
times. I doubt that there are still 5 years old versions of postgres.

So I guess you shouldn't mix up two different things, updating a
software by releasing a new version and releasing a new software which
is incompatible with the previous "versions".

> wtf is zattoo (don't answer I don't care). reason AV's
> don't have 64-bit support is windows is their only serious market and
> windows hasn't had serious 64-bit support.

And why are there free Linux versions of every anti-virus software, if
Windows is their only serious market? And are there 64 bit Windows
versions of those anti-virus software? I haven't seen any yet. So this
can't be the reason.

> don't take this out of context. I was referring to kde 4.0 where all
> the distro's decided to roll it out when kde explicitly said 'this is
> a developer release only'.

I didn't take this out of context. You weren't referring to KDE 4 there.
At least I couldn't read this.

> right because that's the only flash site people use?

Not the only one, but the one which is used by most people.

> I doubt hulu is
> going to switch (and it never worked on 64-bit flash maybe that's why
> adobe is (according to them) overhauling 64-bit flash), pandora could
> have been implemented in js when it came out, they chose flash. I
> believe flash had that market share when youtube was in its infancy
> and maybe even earlier.

But don't forget that Hulu and Pandora (officially) only work in the
USA. And the USA is not the world even if some Americans (mainly the US
Government and US Army) conceit themselves to be the world or at least
like to take over the world domination.

> yes it's becoming less important, and their's certainly a push to kill
> IE6. I don't think that's going to matter to what I said though.

People who are still using IE6 (I mean the old version, not an IE vs.FF
flamewar) are beyond help anyway.

Heiko