[arch-general] PulseAudio in [testing]

[Yaro Kasear]

On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 21:26 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 11:55 +0000, Peter Lewis wrote:
> > On Saturday 27 November 2010 06:30:36 Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
> > > > >> Good to see the overwhelming positive lean; is pulse being considered
> > > > >> for an eventual default by chance?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Almost nothing is default on Arch...
> > >
> > > So you should ask Gnome. And the answer is that yes, it will be default
> > > on Gnome. If you do not use Gnome, then only if the apps you pull need
> > > it.
> > 
> > Given that it's been said that if pulse is installed on your system and a 
> > program calls its client lib, then this starts the pulse server, which in turn 
> > takes over your whole sound system and forces everything else to use it (I'm 
> > paraphrasing, but that's what I understood), I for one would not like pulse to 
> > be a required dependency of anything. I'm not trying to troll, but that sounds 
> > like malware to me.
> > 
> > Pete.
> 
> In the various branches of this thread there's quite a few
> misunderstandings of pulse. Not unexpected, but please remember that
> hearsay isn't the same as actually trying to use something (and perhaps
> understand it).
> 
> You cannot (without quite a bit of effort) use pulseaudio and native
> alsa. That is, don't use some apps using pulse and some not (I do, but
> that's hackish, and its Jack not alsa). Similarly if you use nvidia you
> cannot use neovoeu at the same time. Pulse handles audio, nvidia handles
> your card.
> 
> And the whole point of how pulseaudio is built in [testing] (libpulse
> package) is that apps can be built with it (and drag libpulse in) but
> will not need to use it, unless configured to do it. So no takeover for
> those who AREN'T using it, which is part of what Jan asked for feedback
> for (as Allan has replied already).
> 

Thank you. Keep Pulse Audio optional. Please.