[arch-general] xorg 1.9 breaks

Stefan Erik Wilkens stefanwilkens at gmail.com
Fri Oct 1 07:09:08 EDT 2010

2010/10/1 kurrata <kurrata at gmail.com>:
>  On 10/01/10 01:27, Stefan Erik Wilkens wrote:
>> 2010/9/30 kurrata<kurrata at gmail.com>:
>>>  latest xorg update (1.9)  breaks it with nvidia-173xx drivers
>>> (173.14.27-3).
>>> Easy fix, just install previouse xorg
>> AFAIK, current nvidia xorg support is as such:
>> 96.xx range ->  up to xserver 1.7, no mention of updating.
>> 173xx range ->  up to xserver 1.8, 1.9 support is in the pipeline
>> nvidia range ->  *
>> yesterday, nvidia has confirmed that the 173xx range's support for
>> xserver 1.9x is currently in the testing phase:
>> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=2325998
>> so perhaps wait for the 173 range to actually support the new xserver :)
> Or we could just add conflict in pacman output if person has nvidia driver
> and stoping the upgrade. Or just write warning message that the new xorg
> doesn't support nvidia 173xx drivers and will result with break.
> That way others could upgrade to the new xorg and nvidia users wouldn't
> break their machine

breakage is expected with arch, we've been lucky that nvidia has been
keeping legacy drivers up to date with xsever over the last few major
changes and we'll simply have to wait for them to catch up now :) As
said on the link I gave previously, the legacy driver is undergoing
testing for 1.9, it can't be too long now.

it seems non-arch to hold the user by the hand while the answer to
possible breakage was literally one google away.

and then there's the obvious issues this will bring when somebody
forgets to properly update the list of excludes.. added man hours,
more breakage due to improper lists and mass confusion about the state
of drivers... though that may sound a little more apocalyptic than

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