[arch-general] RPM Question

Lew Wolfgang wolfgang at sweet-haven.com
Sun Oct 3 15:19:30 EDT 2010

  On 10/03/2010 11:11 AM, Dan Vrátil wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Oct 2010 09:00:08 -0700, Lew Wolfgang
> <wolfgang at sweet-haven.com>  wrote:
>> On 10/02/2010 06:10 PM, Steven Susbauer wrote:
>>> On 10/2/2010 7:41 PM, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
>>>> It works on all the major distros but fails to install
>>>> on Arch due to an RPM dependency. Their install script just fails saying
>>>> it can't find rpm. The script contains much ugliness and is McAfee
>>>> proprietary, so I doubt hacking it will be productive.
>>>> So the question is: can Arch be configured/tricked into an rpm install?
>>> Does their installer actually require use rpm to install, or just wants rpm to be>  there? Most distros allow you to install rpm, Arch is no different except it is in>  aur:
>>> aur/rpm 5.2.1-1 (153)
>>>      The RedHat Package Manager.  Don't use it instead of Arch's 'pacman'.
>>> If it actually uses rpm for the process, this is probably not the solution. Two>  package managers at once is not a good thing.
>> I spent some time last night pulling the .sh file apart.  It's a
>> script that unzips a binary that unpacks two rpm files (9-MB), one
>> 32-bit ELF program (8.9-MB), two cryptographic keys and an xml file.
>> The script then calls rpm to install the two rpm files, which contain
>> tons of 32-bit system libraries.  These libraries have the same names
>> as regular system libs, like libc, libm, libresolv and libcrypt.  This
>> all makes me very nervous!  Arch not using rpm may be a blessing in
>> disguise, I'm going to see if I can get a waiver to not install this
>> McAfee root-kit.
>> Thanks for the help,
>> Lew
> What about setting up a simple tiny chroot just for this application?

That's an interesting idea, Dan.  But since this package is supposed to install 
itself like a cancer in the OS, it wouldn't be able to perform its function in a 
chroot.  The Windows version of this thing is intended to remove local administrative 
privileges so that the machine can be completely managed remotely.  It can prevent 
unapproved programs from being loaded, and can disable installed programs that it has 
an issue with.  Indeed, it disabled non-current versions of Adobe Acrobat a couple of 
weeks ago.  It also has an IPS function to monitor and disable network traffic it 
finds threatening.  It can enforce password polices and can report what a user is 
doing and what web sites they're visiting.   It can sniff network configurations and 
report dual-homed hosts, natted subnets are also disallowed.   I'm sure it does much 
more.  I've been told that the Linux/Apple versions only report at this time, the 
more intrusive capabilities aren't yet implemented.


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