[arch-general] base stuff

Thomas S Hatch thatch45 at gmail.com
Thu Apr 7 15:16:14 EDT 2011


On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Grigorios Bouzakis <grbzks at xsmail.com>wrote:

> Yaro Kasear wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 06, 2011 18:13:04 Grigorios Bouzakis wrote:
> >> Thomas S Hatch <thatch45 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Yes the systemd topic keeps popping up, right now we don't know
> >> > if certain upstream changes are going to force Arch into using systemd
> > or
> >> > not.
> >>
> >> I dont think such a topic keeps popping up.
> >> In fact I dont remember reading a discussion between Arch developers
> > about
> >> it, ever.
> >> I could probably go on ranting about stuff thats been shoved down users
> >> mouths the last years for months but its futile and a waste of time.
> >>
> >
> > It was a discussion that popped up here, a debate between users who felt
> > replacing sysvinit was completely unneeded to those who seemed to want to
> > use systemd for some useless, unneeded feature maybe less than 1% of
> > Arch users were going to actually use.
> >
>
> I guess you mean http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/32759
> Didnt enjoy skimming through it much, except maybe this part:
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/32874
> And indeed, it was just user talk. The only developer who got even
> remotely interested in participating got flamed.
>
> >> > As for adding SELinux support in base but keeping it turned off by
> >> > default, +1
> >>
> >> Although this isnt a vote, mine was for no selinux at all, so its just
> 1.
> >> :)
> >
> > Selinux is another unneeded thing, but even worse is that it practically
> > requires a doctorate in computer science to manipulate. Can't deny its
> > security, though. +1 to leaving it out of Arch, not that anyone's asking
> Arch
> > to.
> >
>
> All these seem like the natural sideffects of Arch's growth along with
> the (d)evolution (as in degeneration) of Linux.
>
> ----
> Greg
>

Thanks for the link, I did not want to bring up SELinux yet, because I will
not be getting to it for a few months, but this will help a great deal!

-Thomas S Hatch


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