[arch-general] end of the war! Mate has come to archlinux...

[Ralf Mardorf]

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From: arch-general-bounces at archlinux.org on behalf of fredbezies
Sent: Fri 12/9/2011 07:35
 
2011/12/8 Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net>:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: arch-general-bounces at archlinux.org on behalf of Jeffrey Lynn Parke Jr.
> Sent: Thu 12/8/2011 21:24
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> The war was over when people realized that Xfce wasn't so bad. I actually
> prefer it to KDE. Even though it would be a hassle to change over.
>
> +++
>
> Xfce IMO is a good replacement. I guess that Xfce will become much faster better now and I also guess that the GNOME developers will reconsider their policy and that GNOME 2 will have a comeback. KDE3 had no comeback, but KDE4 doesn't suck as much as GNOME 3 does.

I think you're wrong, completely wrong. Gnome 2 and Mate are dead-end.
If you think gnome 3 suck, so gnome 3 users suck too. Thank you.

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Frederic :), this is a bad conclusion. There's nothing wrong with a user who is comfortable with GNOME 3. It's just that GNOME 3 comes with several side effects. I'll install GNOME 3 myself, but I don't like it for some usage that's important for me and for my DAW I'll use Xfce. When I'm e.g. forced to use a proprietary graphics driver to run a DE, this is what I'll call a dead end, especially if I need to offend a software licence to use a DE with a kernel-rt and a Nvidia graphics. I also guess that a good tool shouldn't be dropped. If a DE, such as GNOME 2 enables a good workflow, it's not helpful to break this workflow.
Linux users are a minority group and a lot of us chose Linux, because it's a reliable tool freelance from marketing. At least with Debian I experienced GNOME 3 as problematic, comparable to current M$ and Apple fashions that I don't want on my machine. Some users need to use GNOME 3's fallback mode, you might run top, too see what happens if you do this.

YMMV!

Ralf