[arch-general] Is there a clean solution to get completely rid of Pulseaudio?

[Ralf Madorf]

On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 12:06 +0100, Kwpolska wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Ralf Madorf
> <ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net> wrote:
> > Wow :D
> >
> > I first just asked for a solution similar to Debian dummy packages and
> > get tons [1] of insults.
> >
> > Then I explained why I (and I know a lot of other people) will install
> > e.g. GNOME. I'll do it again. We might wish to use this DE or simply GDM
> > as login manager. I don't blame Arch Linux packages, I just blame
> > answers like "don't use gnome".
> >
> > No netiquette?
> >
> > I was silent since days, stopped putting in my 2 cents all the time and
> > now I asked for help and get those answers?! That's strange and creepy.
> >
> > Anyway, if somebody should know a solution how to use GNOME without PA,
> > any hints are welcome.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Ralf
> >
> > [1] OT, but too funny, since I got all mails two times, even more than
> > 1k of old mails Evolution already had downloaded from the server.
> >
> 
> Dear idiot,

Dear name caller :D

> 
> I'm kinda wondering why you aren't filtered from my mailbox yet.  You
> top-posted,

I'm not a top poster and I never was a top poster.

>  "put in" useless "2 cents", and whatnot.

I did, like you did now.

>   Now you are
> asking a stupid question.  Using GNOME or GDM without PA is
> I-M-P-O-S-S-I-B-L-E.  Period.  If you are wondering, why one needs
> sound in GDM, I can help you (not tested, but I'm sure it actually
> happens): what if you mistype your password?

Then you'll get a PC speaker beep, but I even don't need a PC speaker
beep. At least deaf also don't need sound.

Pro-audio don't need Pulseaudio. My RME card anyway won't work before I
run HDSP mixer. Pulseaudio anyway can't handle my RME card.

>   Or maybe you can't see
> the login prompt and your computer should say "Choose your username
> and type your password"?  There are many uses for that.  But even if
> you don't need that, GDM and all other GNOME apps are SUPPOSED to be
> used as a part of GNOME, not
> I-want-to-use-kde-and-gdm-and-nautilus-and-whatnot.  Expect such
> issues.
> 
> My suggestion is: (a) stop whining; or (b) learn how to code and cut
> out all sound stuff out of gnome-settings-daemon.

I only need to recompile it with a switch set, no need to learn how to
code for Linux.

>   No matter what you
> choose, there is one more option, which is much better: GET OUTTA HERE
> and use Debian if you like it so much.  Not right?  Then buy a Mac.
> Or Windows if you want to.  PERIOD.

Mac? Windows? He?

> Oh, and in case you're wondering, you will be filtered out after I see
> your response to this message.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Chris "Kwpolska" Warrick.
> 
> P.S.
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Ralf Madorf
> <ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 12:16 +0200, Ionut Biru wrote:
> >> if you don't like gdm, remove it and replace it with lxdm,lightdm or
> >> other crap out there.
> >
> > I like GDM. I don't like login managers where I can't browse the users.
> >
> > - Ralf
> >
> 
> Oh.  So you want to tell me that [this][0] is a DM without a user browser,
> and [that][1] (sorry for an Ubuntu screenshot), and [that][2] for sure doesn't
> have a user list!
> [0]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KDM.jpg
> [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lightdm-screenshot.jpg
> [2]: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/File:LXDM.png
> 
> I'm looking forward to your answer, especially on the first part of
> this message.
> 
> C.

*?*

Mary Christmas too :D

Ralf