[arch-general] When will Arch switch to Upstart

Culley Smith culley.smith at gmail.com
Wed Jan 19 11:54:26 EST 2011

Perhaps someone with more insight into this matter can speak up as to the
advantages of upstart vs System V init?  As far as I understand things, the
main thing being championed are boot times.  However, boot times are
somewhat misleading.  They may be great on fresh systems, and have an even
greater appeal to desktop users, but I've never found them all that
beneficial on servers with long uptimes.  However, does upstart have other
advantages over System V init?

Personally, if the main advantage is boot times, that isn't much of a boon
in my opinion.  I have a number of services and filesystem checks that I run
on boot time... more so on my servers than my desktop machines, so I already
figure in long boot times.

I guess my question here is, given that System V init has been around for
decades, are there pressing issues other than boot times that would warrant
a switch?


On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Kazuo Teramoto <kaz.rag at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Laurent Carlier <lordheavym at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > And "ubuntu use it" is not enough as an argument :-)
> For me its is an unfavorable one. =]  If ubuntu did, think two times
> before doing it.
> @OP If you look at the forum you will find a lot of arguments showing
> how bad upstart is. It can be fast but at the cost of being PITA.
> Regards,
> Kazuo
> --
> “The journey is more important than the destination—that’s part of
> life, if you only live for getting to the end, you’re almost always
> disappointed.”
> Donald E. Knuth

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