[arch-general] gnome2.32

Sorin-Mihai Vârgolici smv at yobicore.org
Tue Jul 5 04:03:50 EDT 2011


În data de Ma, 05-07-2011 la 02:41 -0300, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi a
scris:

> Wow... finally I have a valid point... Very thanks... I will try it ASAP
> and whoe the users 
> what they think about....

I just can't understand why everyone forgets there is still a way to use
metacity and gnome-panel and even if they were to be deprecated
upstream, which isn't the case yet, they could be simply replaced by
anything else. The real problem with gnome3 is just this: the window
manager and the panel. Get over it and work around the upstream decision
in a smart way.

Using a different window manager is the best thing to do for those of us
that can't or won't use gnome-shell and is not that hard. It can be done
either in normal or fallback mode, keeping metacity and gnome-panel or
not, even if that was intended as a "solution" for those systems that
don't have 3D acceleration. It won't work *exactly* as gnome2, so what?
You can get the sources and make it work as you want. Your users don't
know how to do it? Fine, do it yourself for them, or hire someone to do
it.

Things will change anyway. We all understand that the things around us
and the things we use everyday change, and we are proud of being able to
adapt, wheter in real life or our fictitious lifes, and yet everyone
fails at the easiest thing in software world: editing a few config
files.

I might even consider writing a how to, especially if someone would
apreciate my work, but untill then I will just say that with a few
edited config files and the proper packages installed anyone can get a
gnome2 like behaviour in gnome3. I now am using Compiz with Emerald and
AWN, but I've also tried, as in configured untill everything was just
like in gnome2, Sawfish and Openbox with fbpanel.

With other window managers it might not be that easy to mimic the
behaviour, but it's still doable. Note that on my system I don't have
ane of these: gnome-applets, gnome-panel, gnome-shell, metacity nor
mutter. As a strong argument for how nice and easy it can be done, have
a look at this picture http://ompldr.org/vOWQxOA and here's one with the
good old gnome2 that inspired me http://ompldr.org/vOWQxYQ (too bad it
was made on Debian just a few days before I decided to switch to
Parabola).

Don't get fooled by the looks, it's just a Mist like theme, and is not
yet finished. The way it works is more important. The fact that I have
3D support, is just a bonus. Things can be done to work the same even
without it.

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<>< Sorin-Mihai Vârgolici



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