[arch-general] Arch Linux support in puppet

Dieter Plaetinck dieter at plaetinck.be
Mon Mar 14 13:09:39 EDT 2011

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:58:19 -0600
Thomas S Hatch <thatch45 at gmail.com> wrote:

> But regardless, this should support the Arch style runlevel.

maybe... in theory it's possible that in a month we switch to systemd as
official init system.  this will probably not happen (soon), but just

> I do think that if it is possible to determine the ordering based on
> the requires statements of other services that would be great

the key thing imho is that currently on a normal, single Arch install
it's the admin who configures the ordering, very explicitly.
Automatically guessing an implicit ordering based on whatever
heuristics is not how Arch currently does it, and probably neither
should puppet.
I don't have any puppet experience, but is it not possible to just make
the admin configure the order in puppet? Or even just define $DAEMONS
in puppet?
It's remarkable that such a simple configuration syntax in rc.conf
(an ordered list of daemons) is causing these issues,
it seems as if puppet tries to abstract (too much?) and now we must work around the
limitations of that abstraction?

BTW: I was right across Nigel at the devops dinner in Brussels. small
world :)


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