[arch-general] Adopting start-stop-daemon in archlinux

Mauro Santos registo.mailling at gmail.com
Thu Sep 8 09:43:33 EDT 2011

On 08-09-2011 12:58, Paul Ezvan wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 12:08:30 +0200, Clemens Fruhwirth wrote:
>> If you use Debian, you might have come across start-stop-daemon. It's
>> part of the dpkg package and encapsulates all the knowledge, they
>> learnt when dealing with starting and stopping daemons.
> Systemd may provide the same simplification of handling system deamons,
> maybe we can look at it also. But it may be to bloated to be considered
> as KISS :)
> Paul

The problem with systemd is that it is in community and I'd say that it
still needs thorough testing and wiki documentation before it is adopted
as arch's default init system.

About the program that is suggested, it is c, if it really brings big
improvements then go for it, if the problem is just handling programs
that don't free a network port immediately when they are terminated,
then I'm not sure if providing a c program that may be harder to
understand and debug is a solution. Programs like deluge don't free the
used ports immediately and users have to know how to deal with that,
system daemons are not different, if anything a bug report/feature
request/improvement request should be submitted upstream to tackle this

I may be wrong and imagining things but I think before I've seen arch
keep bash scripts instead of replacing them with c programs because the
speed improvement was not that substantial and bash was easier to
understand and hack.

However this is a good candidate to be maintained in [community] (or
[extra]) as an alternative or maybe as a dependency of those misbehaving
daemons that need special handling.

Mauro Santos

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