[arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Adopting start-stop-daemon in archlinux

Rogutės Sparnuotos rogutes at googlemail.com
Thu Sep 8 15:16:03 EDT 2011

Tom Gundersen (2011-09-08 18:50):
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Thomas Bächler <thomas at archlinux.org> wrote:
> > Am 08.09.2011 18:01, schrieb Tom Gundersen:
> >> I think my preferred approach would be to provide some more
> >> helperfunctions in /etc/rc.d/functions which do the most common
> >> operations of the ones you outlined above. Just by glancing over your
> >> ssh-patch I got the impression that we would be better off supporting
> >> fewer options than start-stop-daemon does, to encourage unified/simple
> >> rc scripts. Take --start as an example, we should probably have a
> >> function that looks something like "start($pidfile,$executable,$args)"
> >
> > Agreed.
> >
> >> . How we implement these functions would be an internal detail of
> >> initscripts (we could either include start-stop-daemon.c or we could
> >> implement them in bash if it is simple enough).
> >
> > Clemens has a point here: Debian already sorted out all the kinks and
> > quirks of this topic, and implemented the solution in
> > start-stop-daemon.c. Instead of slowly converging towards their result
> > (remaining buggy on the way), we would benefit from their work if our
> > new helpers in rc.d/functions would simply call start-stop-daemon.
> Sure, I'd be happy with including start-stop-daemon in initscripts. I
> don't want to just copy the C file though (like we did with minlog),
> but pull the sources from whatever upstream is. And I think it makes
> sense to keep it internal and not expose it to rc scripts as is (just
> so we still have some control on what goes into our rc scripts),
> unless someone can successfully argue that it is all awesome.

Continuing the minilogd example, I think that if you decide to use it,
start-stop-daemon shouldn't be bundled with initscripts, but should be a
separate package (and it has 32 votes in AUR).

--  Rogutės Sparnuotos

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